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Thread ID: 15206	2002-01-31 20:28:00	The War on Spam - a Call to Arms	Guest (0)	Press F1

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33772	2002-01-31 20:28:00	Okay, I've had enough. I need help from you all in the war on spam. Examples of why this must be halted: * a friend had someone spam the planet using his domain name. He got thousands of emails in just a few days. He ended up installing MDaemon to handle it. * my domain name is email.co.nz, as some of you may know. I get heaps of stuff that people subscribe to, when they don't know their own damn address. If they want to use a spurious one, why not use email.com? It's shorter. Why not use no@no.net? * there is spam that tells you it isn't spam - that makes me feel soooo much better. * there is spam that hides who it is sent to, so it is impossible to unsubscribe. * there is spam where you think subscribing will just confirm your existence. * there is spam that has an incorrect link for unsubscribing. I want revenge. I want to hunt these people down and make their lives a complete misery. I want tools that spew out emails over and over again to the same poor shmuck. I want to be able to track down 'darnell' and strangle him or her and yell 'stop with the gambling sites and use your own stupid address!!!'. I need ideas, people. Let us get busy, let us get nasty, let us get even. robo (slightly frustrated and annoyed, can you tell?)	Guest (0)
33773	2002-01-31 20:54:00	Hi Rob - I sooo agree with you. Here's the link that I first used when I started out as a spam hunter: www.elsop.com	Guest (0)
33774	2002-01-31 21:02:00	The problem with tracking down spam, is that sometimes just opening the email verifies your address for even more spam lists. The trick is to view the message source under properties/message source. This not only gives you the headers, but also the message which you can then scan through for any tracking images.	Guest (0)
33775	2002-01-31 23:46:00	Well get these guys, I get spammed from them on my Hotmail 9 or 10 times a week, contacted Hotmail.com and basically got 'so what' AHHHH I would love to stop them but there is no reply addy to spam them back on!!!!! From diplomas@U_D_Programs Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:11:54 -0800 Received: from [193.251.76.129] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBE1F772100CC4004314AC1FB4C812CBB47; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:11:48 -0800 Message-ID: <g1thaYfB85aIL7cmzIbR2m@j2F2Kp-Mnqz_j.n> From: diplomas@U_D_Programs <diplomas@U_D_Programs> Bcc: To:tazzies25@hotmail.com To:tazzier@hotmail.com To:tazziepoo@hotmail.com To:tazzieonly@hotmail.com To:tazzienz@hotmail.com Subject: Want to get ahead? Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:12:05 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset='US-ASCII' Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit U N I V E R S I T Y D I P L O M A S Obtain a prosperous future, money earning power, and the admiration of all. Diplomas from prestigious non-accredited universities based on your present knowledge and life experience. No required tests, classes, books, or interviews. Bachelors, masters, MBA, and doctorate (PhD) diplomas available in the field of your choice. No one is turned down. Confidentiality assured. CALL NOW to receive your diploma within days!!! 1 - 2 1 4 - 8 5 3 - 4 3 5 7 or 1 - 4 1 2 - 2 9 1 - 1 5 1 5 Call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, including Sundays and holidays.	Guest (0)
33776	2002-02-01 01:35:00	Reading Tazzies problem, it seems that spammers use a word generator to produce variations on common (and not so common) names. I get very little spam indeed and all of that is on my secondary addresses. I wonder if that is because my primary email address is so odd that a computer would be unlikely to generate it? I did get an email address for my son using just his simple and common four letter name and got heaps of spam from gaming and porn sites frequented by the previous owner of that address. I worked my way through all of them slowly using the forgotten password facility and other methods until I had them all cancelled, but one gaming site was very difficult, ignoring 25 unsubscribe requests so I went to the options box, checked the paths and contacted the primary provider. They proved very helpful, had a policy of shutting down sites with non-functional unsubscribe links and within a few days that address was spam free. One thing I found about subscribed sites was that it was relatively eay to get enough information to operate as the original subscriber. One even gave me his full name, address and backgound details which was really useful in closing some accounts. Seems to me that if you use a difficult (unusual)name for general email work on the net (perhaps Hotmail that you can drop at any time) then you can stay reasonably spam free. I only give my main email address (which has been in use for several years now) to sites that I trust implicitly and currently I receive no spam at all on that address. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Guest (0)
33777	2002-02-01 01:46:00	Robo, try this trick, works in Outlook Express, not in MS Outlook. I have copy.pasted from a reply I made further up the board. While this does not solve the problem of spammers, what you can do if you use Outlook Express is click Message>Create Rule from Message>of the 3 windows the first is ticked by default though you can change that to suit>the 2nd window scroll down to Delete from Server>the 3rd window shows the address used. This you can customise further. If the address is soemthing silly like free@grouplotto.com or sexpics@adult.com, you can single right click the address and in the small box that pops up add a second address to block which will be everything from the @ onwards, eg- @adult.com or @grouplotto.com so now you block not only the full address which in all likely hood will be different tomorrow but you also block anything ending in the @adult.com address as well. In the case of hotmail, yahoo, xtra, being the address used, don't add the 2nd address into the 3rd window otherwise you will not only block the spam sender but all senders from that isp as well. It does work, I applied it to a friends computer just a couple of weeks ago, he was getting in excess of 200+ spam per day and increasing almost everyday, now it is near enough nothing unless they are using hotmail, yahoo,or a genuine isp but even then it is minimumal by comparsion to what it was before.	Guest (0)
33778	2002-02-01 05:15:00	I've just checked my hotmail to see all my spam mail. I use to wonder why I was getting mail with subjects saying Hey Todd when that isn't my name but this here shocks me -> tracking.networkpromotion.com As you can see there's a lot of details and no it's not my address or anything at all. In fact I have no idea where they got this information from. I would have been more shocked if it was mine though. Maybe Todd has my mail? So how do they get all this about a person, and why is Todd using my address or is this another scam to make you unsubscribe because it's not your mail just to get put on the mailing list?	Guest (0)
33779	2002-02-01 05:51:00	Jeez, So there is someone else who gets the Diplomas one! (sarcastic overtones!). I get those (or rather got, at hotmail), along with just about everyone I know... We all use a paradise accounts now... It's much better, and you get to lecture the techies on the helpline! Yep, here's waht I did to cure myself of spam: Ring the Diploma chaps and tell them where to stick it... Get a pop3 account (preferably a really obscure one, and don't go near xtra, they're part of MSN now) and don't give your address out in a manner which allows it to be directly picked up. I find that telling people it is on a certain website, and giving them a link, doesn't attract any spam at all. Spammers are downright lazy. I only get one spam message with paradise, the standard xxxteens.com or something, and it changes address every 12 hours. Ok, here's the tricky bit. Get yourself some tracing software (like neotrace) and look up the ip address of the offending spam server... If you can't arrange this, keep replying to it until it goes out of existence, then note the time, and work out which country it's coming from.(they almost all switch address at the local midnight) Get as much info as you can, then give it all to your isp. Or hook yourself up with a fancy firewall. Your isp (if it's not them sending you the spam (I'm looking at you XTRA...Traitor!!) they can block ip address from reaching you. Works a treat. You can have a lot of fun with the diploma chaps, and with confusing the techies at your isp. I was told once how to shut down my computer 'put the dot next to shut down, then click ok'... So I cranked out the big words... 'perhaps I need to delete these six registry keys?' You can get rid of it simply, but maybe you guys get it worse than me? How much do you get? And Robo, yes I think someone needs to have their beard torn out and fed to them, followed by a slow roasting, then being drawn, quatered, hung, shot, diced finely and stirfried...with watties of course! How many of you think you can trace the sources of spam? We could organise a mass mail bombardment on their server... Hehe... the FAT man	Guest (0)
33780	2002-02-01 10:12:00	Some interesting responces. I like most of you have two e-mail accounts, one through my ISP and a hotmail account, I have NEVER got any spam through my ISP account and I have had it since I first went online about 5 years ago. I also have a hotmail account which I use for registering with sites on the net if I need to and get on average about 3 a day. All I do is delete them, however my son gets them daily by the bucket load. My ISP e-mail address is an unusual combination of letters so maybe that is the answer. PS What price on the Black Caps now??? :0(	Guest (0)
33781	2002-02-01 10:30:00	I agree with everyone - if I get one more 'urgent that you verify this email so that only you can collect $10,000,000' message from freelotto (who I have never heard of) I will sic the dogs on them! I think there are a lot of people out there that will be behind anything that is done to the scumbag spammers 250 percent. Death to Spam!	Guest (0)
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