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| Thread ID: 123881 | 2012-03-22 08:25:00 | Illegal Downloads - Anything Happened in NZ? | Winston001 (3612) | PC World Chat |
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| 1266351 | 2012-03-22 08:25:00 | Just curious. Has anybody been prosecuted or had their internet access cut off in New Zealand? Has downloading dropped? | Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 1266352 | 2012-03-22 08:29:00 | Not under nz law that I know of, plenty of notices sent out I would say. | plod (107) | ||
| 1266353 | 2012-03-22 08:35:00 | Didnt they remove the internet cutting off thing? | icow (15313) | ||
| 1266354 | 2012-03-22 09:20:00 | www.stuff.co.nz So, the MPAA, RIAA are complaining that the three fees of $25 (total $75) to bring an illegal downloader to task is too high. Yet, when they get people to court they are going for damages in the order of $5000, or multiples thereof, even hitting $25,000 per item downloaded. So... there seems to be a discrepancy with how they obtain their figures. If a download is doing damages of $5,000 or more, then it should absolutly be worth coughing up $75 to bring that rogue internet user before the law, as they're cutting their losses by thousands in the process. Or, as we've all known, their media is worth $5.00, and they've been gutting everybody all along. Time they pulled their heads in and shut the ##. |
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| 1266355 | 2012-03-22 09:27:00 | I haven't got one :devil | The Error Guy (14052) | ||
| 1266356 | 2012-03-22 11:11:00 | Not that I know of. I heard that as of yet not many (or none) have actually complied with the terms necessary to send a notice, biggest one as Paul says, they don't want to pay the cost. The cost of $15,000 is likely just to try to scare people. There is no logic or sense behind wanting to fine someone that much for downloading just 3 things, which would probably amount to a $100 retail price on average. |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1266357 | 2012-03-22 19:34:00 | What's the bet that the Gov buckles to the US media companies and drop the fee down to something like $5. Anything for the FTA that seems to be years in the making and is being dangled in front of every NZ government for the past 10 years.. | paulw (1826) | ||
| 1266358 | 2012-03-22 20:47:00 | The cost of $15,000 is likely just to try to scare people. There is no logic or sense behind wanting to fine someone that much for downloading just 3 things, which would probably amount to a $100 retail price on average. The scarey thing is the $$$$$ they get awarded in the courts. The precedent has been set in the US, its just a matter of time for NZ . They are really just shooting themselves in the foot. Look at the US court cases, where they want jail time for a single download, or where they have got been awarded $1Million+ from a single parent, unemployed who cant possibly pay such stupidly high damages,for $100 worth of songs. They would get alot more support from the general public if they were reasonable in the fines/damages they wanted. |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1266359 | 2012-03-22 21:30:00 | What's the bet that the Gov buckles to the US media companies and drop the fee down to something like $5. Anything for the FTA that seems to be years in the making and is being dangled in front of every NZ government for the past 10 years.. I wouldn't be so sure... if what the ISPs say is true (that even $25 is not enough to cover the costs of finding out who did the download) I can see them kicking up a big fuss if the government wanted to drop the fee even lower, unless of course the government wanted to pay the fee themselves, but that would just be an obscene waste of taxpayer money... The scarey thing is the $$$$$ they get awarded in the courts. The precedent has been set in the US, its just a matter of time for NZ . They are really just shooting themselves in the foot. Look at the US court cases, where they want jail time for a single download, or where they have got been awarded $1Million+ from a single parent, unemployed who cant possibly pay such stupidly high damages,for $100 worth of songs. They would get alot more support from the general public if they were reasonable in the fines/damages they wanted. Exactly. There are far worse crimes that can be committed that will get you a lesser punishment. |
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