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| Thread ID: 123850 | 2012-03-20 20:08:00 | and you wonder why people torrent music.... | GameJunkie (72) | PC World Chat |
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| 1266040 | 2012-03-20 20:08:00 | www.techdirt.com | GameJunkie (72) | ||
| 1266041 | 2012-03-20 21:17:00 | I'm totaly in agreement with the posted rant I want a real alternative thats legal and not crap mp3 or aac cheap quality until then I will continue with CD,s | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1266042 | 2012-03-20 21:57:00 | Yeah me too, I still buy the occasional CD and have used digirama a few times but I despair at being made to jump though hoops and pay though the nose to do stuff legally when the pirate alternative is so much easier and faster. Also with broadband these days all online music should be available in a lossless format for customers to purchase. I rip my CD's to my media PC and store the originals, who wants to play actual CDs these days. The music labels seem to be unwilling to change with the times, a personal annoyance is music videos. They spend a lot of money on them, play them on TV to attract new fans, but do they sell them? I've often wished I could build up a collection of my favourite music videos and there's never been an easy legitimate way to do it despite the medium being around more than 30 years. Sure it's possible these days, but still not in any convenient way. Digital distribution seems to have happened despite the music industry when it should have been them that started and kept control of it. They have only themselves to blame for dropping the ball and it's about time they pulled their heads in and found away to supply customers with what they want instead of bitching about piracy while appearing to do nothing to compete with it. |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1266043 | 2012-03-20 23:14:00 | So true and I suspect Megaupload got hit because it was going to open up a music site. | mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1266044 | 2012-03-20 23:30:00 | Hmmm. Let's see. Books cost more here. PC Games cost more here. I get this sort of message trying to buy certain things from Amazon. So that's a good reason to go out and steal the stuff instead? |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1266045 | 2012-03-20 23:41:00 | Hmmm. Let's see. Books cost more here. PC Games cost more here. I get this sort of message trying to buy certain things from Amazon. So that's a good reason to go out and steal the stuff instead? Yep if they won't sell it to you |
paulw (1826) | ||
| 1266046 | 2012-03-21 01:05:00 | There's a lot of bullshit on both sides, it's a crime and even those who argue strongly for the piracy case are well aware of that . At the same time the copyright holders wildly overestimate the impact on their business and expect us to swallow it as truth . There's no justification for breaking the law, but at the same time the copyright holders need to bleat less and stop punishing their legitimate customers for the actions of others . No it's not reasonable to steal something just because you can't buy it legitimately but it is an argument the record companies etc could remove by just allowing us to buy the stuff we want to buy . It's also not reasonable to expect your paying customers to put up with worse services and products than what the pirates get . If everything was available to purchase without all the DRM and region bullshit and at a fair price, then all the pirates would have no justifications to offer other than not wanting to pay which makes it much more clearly theft (which it is, all the idiotic semantics aside) . I'm no saint I've done it myself, but I can't justify it . I can say there is no pirated music in my collection that I would be willing to pay for and I would delete it all without a second thought if it came to it . I have however got around 250 CDs I paid full price for that I would be very upset to lose . With a great deal of them costing in the region of $30 - $40 it represents a fairly significant investment in music . Do the music companies care? not at all . If I lose or damage a CD or it gets stolen will they replace it for the price of the disk? not likely . They may claim you're paying for the right to listen to the content rather than the physical disk but they don't act like it . |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1266047 | 2012-03-21 01:50:00 | True Dugi. I also have a lot of music and i never listen to it anymore. i havent downloaded a song for ages. (although i won 1 in a subway card promotion and when it came to it i couldnt find anything i want to download) I have watched Games of Thrones, it is not out in nz and who knows when they will play it. I dont have sky so cannot watch it on soho. GJ original post stands IMO |
Gobe1 (6290) | ||
| 1266048 | 2012-03-21 02:56:00 | Hmmm . Let's see . Books cost more here . PC Games cost more here . I get this sort of message trying to buy certain things from Amazon . So that's a good reason to go out and steal the stuff instead? No, because there is an alternative from a physical store even if it costs more . Then it's up to you to decide if you want to pay that extra money or not . BUT if there was no physical store selling what you wanted, the ONLY option was to buy online, and that online shop refused to sell to you, then they are not going to get any money from you . And, if you pirate it, they aren't going to get money off you . . . Either way? They didn't get any money from you . Now remember, what is any business all about? It's all about the money and the profit! When it comes down to the bottom line in terms of money and profit, there is _NO DIFFERENCE_ between them refusing to sell you something and you pirating it . Therefore in that kind of scenario (and that scenario only, and yes, it's quite unlikely to be the case) there is no financial impact whatsoever to them, so you might as well pirate it if you want it . |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1266049 | 2012-03-21 03:04:00 | When did we get the dod given right to steal that which we can't buy? The argument makes no sense. if the answer is no, You can't have it, then thats the answer. If your reply is then, alright, I've stolen it, Then you are in the wrong. I have no issue with anything anyone does that doesn't affect me as such, but if you are doing dodgy crap then have the good grace keep it quiet, no one cares, and you can't make yourself "in the right" with weak dribble. Just because the world isn't serving music to you on a platter doesn't mean weak and pathetic arguments deserve to be tabled. Its not your music peckerheads. |
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