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Thread ID: 123888 2012-03-22 21:41:00 Maori claims to NZ shot to pieces? Zippity (58) PC World Chat
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1266467 2012-03-25 18:31:00 Your ignorance of history and your evident racism don't really make for much of an argument on your part, but if the Urewera's have so little value, why not just hand them back as they could hardly be described as developed.
I think the key to the question is separatism, when we all become Kiwis things should improve.

Not sure that tribalism is very useful.
Cicero (40)
1266468 2012-03-25 19:34:00 Your ignorance of history ...........................

3 words

POT - KETTLE - BLACK
Zippity (58)
1266469 2012-03-25 20:04:00 Treaty top ups for settled claims here.
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prefect (6291)
1266470 2012-03-25 20:12:00 Your ignorance of history and your evident racism don't really make for much of an argument on your part, but if the Urewera's have so little value, why not just hand them back as they could hardly be described as developed. Please tell me which part of my comment displays an ignorance of history and shows it is racist?

I have to admit that not coming from those parts, I dont know alot about the Ureweras. However isnt much of it a National Park which means it is preserved and maintained for ALL New Zealanders? At a guess there is also some forestry planted in the area, so that hardly makes the area of "little value" today does it. Forestry and Tourism are big earners in NZ.

Why not just hand them back? Well thats the real question isnt it. Hand what and how much back to whom, who are the rightful owners of the land, and I guess thats where the Waitangi Tribunal and historians have a hard task and why things take so long to sort out.
Iantech (16386)
1266471 2012-03-25 20:51:00 Treaty top ups for settled claims here.
www.nzherald.co.nz When is it going to end. Now some tribes are making money from other tribes settlements.
Iantech (16386)
1266472 2012-03-25 20:57:00 Unbelievable!! When is it going to end. Now some tribes are making money from other tribes settlements.

It will never end. The PM that finally says enough will be out the next day. Only 2 options. Join them or move to aussie.
Gobe1 (6290)
1266473 2012-03-25 22:18:00 So when the Government takes land it isn't on your behalf, but when they have to pay for it it is suddenly your money.

It wasn't my Government (I didn't vote for them - hell, I wasn't even born! My grandfather hadn't even been born at that time!!).

Yes, it's my money (and yours) - Governments don't have any money other than what they either print or raise via taxes (from voters) - and it's TODAY'S money they are using.
johcar (6283)
1266474 2012-03-26 03:20:00 Who really cares? If NZ as a country is too move on we have to stop continually going back to grievances that occurred immediately post waitangi. Sign a new treaty that guarantees the rights of ALL New Zealanders, regardless of race or when they settled. Nick G (16709)
1266475 2012-03-26 04:50:00 and this as well, makes your blood boil doesn't it?
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prefect (6291)
1266476 2012-03-26 05:11:00 and this as well, makes your blood boil doesn't it?
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Get used to it, it ain't going to change.

And that is being deprived, I wonder what a Bangladeshi would think.
Cicero (40)
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