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Thread ID: 124254	2012-04-15 00:31:00	Ports should be held to account over business losses	Iantech (16386)	PC World Chat

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1270094	2012-04-15 00:31:00	The union backing Ports of Auckland workers says the company must be held accountable for the disruption caused by the industrial dispute. Full Article Here (www.nzherald.co.nz) Someone help me here, I thought it was the union workers who went out on strike and caused the disruption (and tried to disrupt any non-union worker from entering the port and actually working), surely if anyone is to be accountable its the moaning union and its peasents. That union has lost the plot.	Iantech (16386)
1270095	2012-04-15 00:57:00	See that Garry Parsloe so smuggly saying on TV last it was the ports management who caused the trouble. What a laugh. :)	Trev (427)
1270096	2012-04-15 01:51:00	I guess you could say the port did start it by doing what all business have to do. By trying to be more competitive in its environment and more efficient at what it does. Putting workers on individual agreements allows it to reward the workers that actually contribute something to the port and not pay as much to the ones that do bugger all, which seems fair and should give incentive for workers earning less to climb the ladder and put themselves into positions that will pay them more. Seems to me a collective agreement where everyone gets the same amount regardless of the amount of work they do and expertise they have is a bit communist - and a bit of a waste of money for the business. Also seems to me unions (or this union), are preventing the business from keeping up with the times. It is by modernising and becoming more efficient that will secure workers jobs not by being inefficient and eventually running at a loss that will result in workers being laid off. Or am I getting it all wrong here?	Iantech (16386)
1270097	2012-04-15 01:58:00	It’s what Sid Holland called “Industrial Anarchy” and deserves the same response as he provided in 1951. However, that is hardly likely to happen with the totally gutless mob running the country and local government at the moment. Struth, the various local bodies couldn’t even deal with a bunch of squatters recently.	B.M. (505)
1270098	2012-04-15 10:45:00	...Putting workers on individual agreements allows it to reward the workers that actually contribute something to the port and not pay as much to the ones that do bugger all, which seems fair and should give incentive for workers earning less to climb the ladder and put themselves into positions that will pay them more... Yes, but it also allows the management to keep staff ignorant of the salary of their fellow workers. For instance - a new employee may be doing EXACTLY the same work as you but being paid $5k more than you. As most individual agreements have confidentiality clauses, the manager avoids the problem of you and your existing co-workers wanting a $5k raise to match the new employee. Conversely, the new employee may be getting $5k less than you but doesn't know he is being disadvantaged.	decibel (11645)
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