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Thread ID: 124203	2012-04-12 02:03:00	NZ Drivers licensing?	The Error Guy (14052)	PC World Chat

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1269479	2012-04-12 02:03:00	A mate of mine just failed her restricted, the ONLY thing she did wrong was going past the 50km sign in masterton at 55 as she was slowing down. What sort of rip off crap is that? one thing and it wasn't major. And it wasn't even sustained speeding, she was slowing down. As far as I can see NZTA's system is a rip off designed to get them more cash with a test thats impossible to pass on the 1st time. I have heard people say before it's designed to make you fail the first time or even the 2-3rd time, I thought that was just bad drivers having a rant but this shocks me. I feel it's quite clear the system is ripping off the people who pay through the nose to use it. All this stuff about the tests making the roads safer is all a load of **** too. I have had more close calls with adult drivers making dangerous passes between the hutt and masterton it's not even funny. The "kids" as we are labeled tend to be more alert and focused than the hurried responsible "adults" who over take overtaking cars in the right hand lane. I feel more safe in a car with a person on their restricted because they are paying attention to whats going on. Adults are all over the place (not all but quite a few). And for what ever reason are not aware of their surroundings. pfft failed because of 55 after passing a 50 /rant	The Error Guy (14052)
1269480	2012-04-12 02:14:00	Well technically she was over the speed limit, which takes effect at the position of the sign...	pcuser42 (130)
1269481	2012-04-12 02:18:00	Yeah, still I would have thought a warning or something, watch you speed when changing zones. It only happened once. Instead it's a fail, pay more $ and resit the whole thing Doesn't change the fact she was speeding at the sign but I don't think I really warranted a whole fail/resit	The Error Guy (14052)
1269482	2012-04-12 02:19:00	Well technically she was over the speed limit, which takes effect at the position of the sign... I've always wondered about this and if that's the case then I have to speed up before I reach the sign when going from a 50k area into a 70k or more area. That way I am travelling at the correct speed when I pass the sign. But what happens if a cop sees me doing this and pings me for speeding while still in the 50k area? They can't have it both ways can they?	CYaBro (73)
1269483	2012-04-12 02:26:00	All this stuff about the tests making the roads safer is all a load of **** too. I have had more close calls with adult drivers making dangerous passes between the hutt and masterton it's not even funny. The "kids" as we are labeled tend to be more alert and focused than the hurried responsible "adults" who over take overtaking cars in the right hand lane. I feel more safe in a car with a person on their restricted because they are paying attention to whats going on. Adults are all over the place (not all but quite a few). And for what ever reason are not aware of their surroundings. Not in my 6 years delivering Meals on Wheels and Community Watch, "kids" were the most inconsiderate drivers' I came across. So lets not start a flaming session over this. Lurking.	Lurking (218)
1269484	2012-04-12 02:37:00	I've always wondered about this and if that's the case then I have to speed up before I reach the sign when going from a 50k area into a 70k or more area. That way I am travelling at the correct speed when I pass the sign. But what happens if a cop sees me doing this and pings me for speeding while still in the 50k area? They can't have it both ways can they? Technically, yes they can have it both ways -- The speed limit sign is set to the maximum allowable speed under good/ideal conditions, from the position of the sign. Just because a sign/limit says 70 (for example) doesn't mean you have to be doing 70. Theres been the odd time I have been following a cop car, and if they are in an area 50 going to 70, 99% of the time they dont start increasing speed until they have passed the speed sign. So legally if a person was doing 60 in a 50 just before the sign they can get pinged. Edited: I've been pinged for similar, on a stretch road that runs past the local school, it goes from 60 to 50 just before the school. Many people have been pinged doing between 51- 55 as they enter the 50 area. In fact NOW they have actually lowered the speed limit in the school area to 40. Bloody great bright sign, you cant miss it.	wainuitech (129)
1269485	2012-04-12 02:37:00	I've always wondered about this and if that's the case then I have to speed up before I reach the sign when going from a 50k area into a 70k or more area. That way I am travelling at the correct speed when I pass the sign. But what happens if a cop sees me doing this and pings me for speeding while still in the 50k area? They can't have it both ways can they? Not really because the 70kmh sign is a max limit not a target to be reached	gary67 (56)
1269486	2012-04-12 03:11:00	I've always wondered about this and if that's the case then I have to speed up before I reach the sign when going from a 50k area into a 70k or more area. That way I am travelling at the correct speed when I pass the sign. But you're speeding before you reach the sign ;)	pcuser42 (130)
1269487	2012-04-12 03:22:00	But you're speeding before you reach the sign ;) Exactly so I have to wait until I've reach the sign to change to the new posted speed limit. Therefore when coming to a slower limit I should be able to wait until I reach the sign before starting to slow down just as I have to wait until I reach the sign before speeding up.	CYaBro (73)
1269488	2012-04-12 04:17:00	This based off the cars speedo? Who is to say that it's exactly accurate. Apparently most are out anyway...	icow (15313)
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