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| Thread ID: 124344 | 2012-04-21 00:40:00 | Revenue gathering on the roads Really??? | coldfront (15814) | PC World Chat |
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| 1270992 | 2012-04-21 00:40:00 | Have been reading on another forum yet another rant about speeding being revenue gathering and thats all the police are interested in rather than solving "real crimes" (their words not mine). So if thats the case how comes they (the police) are into performance based revenue gathering, how comes they wont go for a soft target that can snap them $400+ with one ticket issued? The soft target being a vehicle parked on the side of the road within 6 metres of a road junction, causing an obstruction that is un registered (on exemption) and no WOF? Its been there nearly a month with a for sale notice on it as well. Easter weekend went through a road checkpoint and narrowly avoided a $50 fine for not being able to produce my driving licence. Lucky for me I knew one of the cops and was not ticketed. |
coldfront (15814) | ||
| 1270993 | 2012-04-21 01:10:00 | This is always something the speeders bang on about. Cops are more interested in not having to wipe up the mess after accidents. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1270994 | 2012-04-21 05:05:00 | Copes are more interested in sitting on the AKL south motorway at 7.00am Sunday morning on a down hill section with a sped camera or at the end of a passing lane. Sorry they are basically tax collectors like the city council cops of old but at least when you had an accident in the AK CC days they arrived in about 10 minutes not like to day where there has to be death and mayhem before they'll arrive.. I've had a couple of occasions for ring *555 and be told there is no one available can you sort it out. |
paulw (1826) | ||
| 1270995 | 2012-04-21 05:12:00 | Easter weekend went through a road checkpoint and narrowly avoided a $50 fine for not being able to produce my driving licence. Lucky for me I knew one of the cops and was not ticketed.So what does that say about the police?. | Pato (2463) | ||
| 1270996 | 2012-04-21 05:14:00 | If you dont fine the filthy speeding bastards they will keep on speeding and endangering other road users. The faster the speed the bigger the crash, perhaps the revenue gathering scum theorists need some teaching in basic physics. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1270997 | 2012-04-21 05:35:00 | If you dont fine the filthy speeding bastards they will keep on speeding and endangering other road users. The faster the speed the bigger the crash, perhaps the revenue gathering scum theorists need some teaching in basic physics. Yeah, we could teach that first you have to crash before speed becomes a factor in the end result. And that there is so little difference between 105 and 110km an hour that if you can't travel at that speed without crashing then you shouldn't be allowed on the road. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1270998 | 2012-04-21 06:38:00 | Yeah, we could teach that first you have to crash before speed becomes a factor in the end result. And that there is so little difference between 105 and 110km an hour that if you can't travel at that speed without crashing then you shouldn't be allowed on the road. Yeah and there's really no difference between 110 and 115, or 115 and 120 etc, oh what the hell why have a limit at all. The thing is whether we agree with what the limit is or not it's still the limit and if we ignore it we only have ourselves to blame. This "revenue gathering" only works if large numbers of people are routinely breaking the law and that's the behaviour the police are attempting to stop. Sure they are not upset about the money it makes either but all the people complaining about that have the power to stop it by simply not speeding. If you have serious issues with the speed limit being too low, start a campaign to get it raised or shut the hell up. As long as it's the law there is no excuse for breaking it (I'm guilty sometimes also but I understand who's fault it is if I get a ticket). I do think a 5K tolerance is a bit too tough myself, I'm pretty sure there's that much difference between the speedo's on some cars and just going over the brow of a hill can temporarily bump you up that much. I do think we have some roads that are good enough for a higher speed limit, but I'm not too worried about it myself. As for the "speed was a factor" statement you see all the time, that winds me up a bit too. Of course it was, stationary objects don't crash into each other. It's like saying air is a factor in breathing. What they mean to say and are to lazy to type is the driver was travelling too fast for the road conditions, the condition of the vehicle, or their skill as a driver. |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1270999 | 2012-04-21 06:44:00 | So what does that say about the police?. It says that some the police use some common sense when refering to the incident you highlighted. However whats been lost on most of the posters is the referance is not about speeders but that perception of revenue gathering! If it was just about revenue then why let an unlicensed (no rego) and WOF out of date (expired November) be allowed to park on the roadside of a a state highway on the road causing a visibilty issue for a junction!!!! If a cop ticketed that they would have a qouta they would have to catch at least 10 speeders to match! |
coldfront (15814) | ||
| 1271000 | 2012-04-21 06:46:00 | Yeah and there's really no difference between 110 and 115, or 115 and 120 etc, oh what the hell why have a limit at all. The thing is whether we agree with what the limit is or not it's still the limit and if we ignore it we only have ourselves to blame. This "revenue gathering" only works if large numbers of people are routinely breaking the law and that's the behaviour the police are attempting to stop. Sure they are not upset about the money it makes either but all the people complaining about that have the power to stop it by simply not speeding. If you have serious issues with the speed limit being too low, start a campaign to get it raised or shut the hell up. As long as it's the law there is no excuse for breaking it (I'm guilty sometimes also but I understand who's fault it is if I get a ticket). I do think a 5K tolerance is a bit too tough myself, I'm pretty sure there's that much difference between the speedo's on some cars and just going over the brow of a hill can temporarily bump you up that much. I do think we have some roads that are good enough for a higher speed limit, but I'm not too worried about it myself. As for the "speed was a factor" statement you see all the time, that winds me up a bit too. Of course it was, stationary objects don't crash into each other. It's like saying air is a factor in breathing. What they mean to say and are to lazy to type is the driver was travelling too fast for the road conditions, the condition of the vehicle, or their skill as a driver. Well said and it escapes the ones that have been caught speeding that they are technically breaching the law same as the person who drives a vehicle without the correct paperwork. |
coldfront (15814) | ||
| 1271001 | 2012-04-21 06:56:00 | Yeah blah blah blah,waffle waffle waffle. Ok, I'll spell it out. Speed in many cases is a contributing factor in road incidents, Targeting speed over and above everything else and fixating on 100km/h as a silver bullet is a sign of either a lazy or clueless enforcement. As much as I would take some form of traffic enforcement over none at all I do prefer we had something competent in place. They aren't even close at the moment so lets not pretend otherwise. |
Metla (12) | ||
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