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Thread ID: 124304 2012-04-17 21:48:00 The first Thrid Strike Paul.Cov (425) PC World Chat
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1270668 2012-04-19 22:36:00 Lossless should sound exactly like the CD, that's the whole point. I have never noticed any level difference at 192 or 320 either so that's fairly odd. At 128 I start noticing the quality drop and have occasionally heard some terrible reproduction. A lot comes down to how good your ears are and what you listen to them on, the type of music also makes a big difference. In the car with all the ambient noise and imperfect acoustics even 64kb WMA's usually sound fine, same can be said for most of the cheap earbuds bundled with players.

At home though, through a reasonably good receiver and full range speakers anything below 192 sounds dull and lifeless. Above that and I really can't tell the difference, my ears being over 40 and unable to hear anything above 15khz is probably a large part of that. What I really love about the lossless rips though is the security of having all my music backed up at original quality, I'm still just as annoyed at the CD I lost when my XBOX 360 was stolen than I am at the loss of the console (was experimenting with it's music ripping skills).

I ripped all my CDs to lossless WMA, yeah I'm sure FLAC would be the more popular choice but WMA integrates into media centre seamlessly without jumping through hoops and puts all my music at my fingertips via a media centre remote with minimal effort on my part. And the audio quality should be identical on any lossless format or they aren't truly lossless. I'm considering batch converting it all to 192kbps MP3 for use in mobile players etc and keeping the lossless just for use through the stereo.
dugimodo (138)
1270669 2012-04-19 22:55:00 I still buys CD's - you can't put a lossless file on the bookcase. I know that having a CD on the bookcase is pointless especially because I rarely play them as CD's - but still something about having a physical copy that I never quite abandoned from the buying records days. Twelvevolts (5457)
1270670 2012-04-19 23:31:00 I still buys CD's - you can't put a lossless file on the bookcase. I know that having a CD on the bookcase is pointless especially because I rarely play them as CD's - but still something about having a physical copy that I never quite abandoned from the buying records days.

I can't really explain it either but it just seems nicer to have a physical copy.
Agent_24 (57)
1270671 2012-04-20 07:33:00 I can't really explain it either but it just seems nicer to have a physical copy.

A agree. There is nothing like having a physical copy you can hold in your hands.
goodiesguy (15316)
1270672 2012-04-20 08:51:00 This Thrid Strike is really starting to bite; I didn't see a single Thrid on the streets today.
None are expected tomorrow either - where will this end? How long are we to suffer Thridless Days before the Minister takes action? We could lose our Thrid World rating.
R2x1 (4628)
1270673 2012-04-20 10:24:00 As noted above, kind of useful or otherwise having a physical copy, like being stashed in my bins (storage that is).

I use to mess (and test) around with different mp3 encoders, (rarewares.org) vbr vs cbr's, bitrates, spectral (www.audiohub.org) plots, etc, to yield improved audio, but as noted by dugimodo, it's what you can hear (perceptual (www.soundonsound.com) maybe), and where you hear it (e.g. a loud party vs a quiet room), that you sort of try assess quality. Instrumentals could be improved better with vbr/higher bit rates.

But bought more CD's from ebay, i.e so called remastered for half price in NZ. But wondered how bulk sellers could legally sell hundreds of new remastered CD's. Like Microsoft had a go once at ebay sellers for selling their software bundles from pc packages.
kahawai chaser (3545)
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