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| Thread ID: 18373 | 2002-04-24 00:14:00 | Just a comment about xtra jetstart | Guest (0) | Press F1 |
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| 45314 | 2002-04-24 00:14:00 | Xtra seem to think that the reason people want high speed internet for viewing webpages and writing emails. I get this impression from their comments that the 5000MB is equivalent to 'sending and receiving around 50,000 standard emails or downloading a web page like the Xtra home page over 40,000 times.' Who wants to pay around $70 a a month for what a $20 dial up can do?? High speed internet is FOR big downloads, running ftp servers, playing network games and watching streaming movies etc (all the things dial-up can't do). Yet all these things use 5000MB a month easily, so what, may i ask, is the point of the service?? Craig Bellhouse |
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| 45315 | 2002-04-24 02:01:00 | Good point. Broadband is like having a V8. However under Telecoms rules we have no where to drive it. Mind you 128k isn't really broadband in the true sense. | Guest (0) | ||
| 45316 | 2002-04-24 02:04:00 | While I don't like the marketing concept of introducing a product at a price, then reducing the product value / size as a way of increasing returns **, I believe the caps on Jetstart are reasonable. The communications infrastructure is paid for by data charges - user pays in effect. When Jetstart was introduced, the pricing was made on a guess of an average amount of data that might be moved by a user. Since then, downloading of bigger objects ( in the form of mp3s, movies etc) have stretched this average data amount upwards for a percentage of users. So, faced with either increasing the charges for Jetstart (and hitting a large percentage of people who don't perform massive downloads) or putting a limit on the service, ISP's seem to choose the latter. Bulk users are catered for with the other Jetstream offerings, if they really want. I would suggest you look at what dsl users in other countries have to pay - we don't have it too bad. ** Noticed how potatoe chips have reduced from 200gm to 190gm bags? Beam me up Scotty - and make it quick. The transporters nearly used up the monthly bandwidth. |
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| 45317 | 2002-04-24 02:48:00 | Just my 2 cents. We have Jetstream at work and we are on the 1500MB plan. We have had it now for almost a year and the highest month has been 2756MB. We download (& send) alot of stuff here, emails, drivers, manuals etc but also it is used for downloading game demos, mp3's,movie trailers etc and we usualy end up around the 1500MB mark. So I think if you are going over 5000MB a month you should pay more as you probably have downloads going 24/7! |
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| 45318 | 2002-04-24 03:41:00 | As pointed out by others, the point of broadband is to be able to do 'other' stuff that a modem can't do like streaming video. Sending and downloading 'a lot of stuff' is not really the point. My complaint about JetStream (and I have told Telecom with no response) is the lack of a plan that fills the gap between the non-broadband JetStart (128kbps) and the full speed JetStream (2Mbps). Where is the 256kbps or 512kbps plan? I'm from the UK where you can't really get anything below 512kbps for ADSL and the cost is around NZ$100/month with no data cap. When moving here and investigating broadband I was surprised at how 'behind' Telecom is here (and getting further behind with each change it appears). Pity there is not competition to drive Telecom to UK type services. |
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| 45319 | 2002-04-24 04:51:00 | My point in my original posting was the fact they are taking away without giving something in return....... In theory the most you can download in ideal conditions is approx 37gig......... and yes there are a few people who download 24/7..... so a cap to 5gig is a major reduction......It would have softened the blow somewhat if they had of offered a higher speed to go with the reduction........... I mean really the speed they offer does it matter if I use my 5gig in a week or a month......once its gone its gone........... In the 3months since I got jetstart on I have gone through roughly 20gig of traffic when in theory I could have used over 90gig....does that make me a bandwidth hog???? |
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| 45320 | 2002-04-24 05:44:00 | I agree with Tazzie, but surely you don't want a higher speed as then you will use up your 5000 in less time than before :)!! So far I have yet to get a higher speed connection as there are none available in NZ that are actually economical for a home user on a low budget... especially when i have access to high speed net at tech (for free no less!!) it makes little sense to pay as much as xtra wants for what, 3 times dial up speed?? wow, i can handle my webpages taking 10seconds to load!! Craig... |
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| 45321 | 2002-04-24 06:45:00 | Everyone on this post has a good point, and telecom has a good point. But that still doesn't make it right. We could all have gone with paradise or net4u for less money and a higher (about 10g) data cap to start with, but we chose xtra. I wonder how many people are scratching their heads now? I've been connected for four weeks via Jetstart and on the whole the xtra product seems to be largely disappointing. Neighbours of mine run Jetstart through other ISP's and their speed seems to be marginally better. And don't even get me started on the nightmare that it was to get xtra to setup an account...two weeks...two wasted weeks. Sigh. |
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| 45322 | 2002-04-24 06:50:00 | The comment by wuppo that NZ does not have it too bad compared to some countries, here DSL is limited to a few well off area's, dialup is expensive, we pay about NZ120 for 100hrs with excess time/data charges, a 24/7 dialup connection is about NZ580, we could get a uhig style 56k/sat128k link starting at USD600 a month, 56k/256kSat link for USD1000 a month. Comapred to godzone and the $20 to 30 a month flat rate plans...........there are some things I miss.!!!!! |
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| 45323 | 2002-04-24 07:25:00 | Jetstream. Crusty. I don't understand why telecom offers such a lame-duck service. With the southern cross cable, worldwide traffic should be cheap, yet it is not. I fail to see why telecom offers such a crippled service. They argue that we are not as interconnected as european countries, or states within the US - wasn't this what the scc was supposed to solve? why then the crazy data/bandwidth capping? Also, why don't they want home users to run servers - that is what dsl is for: always on (i mean this in the true 24/7 sense) internet. customers don't want to use this ip.networking madness - thats for proper corporations who want to link remote sites and so on. Say i'm a student and i want to remotely log on to my pc from campus to get access to my files (i do actually do this). if i have files bigger than 10mb this service is not very good for me, yet i do not believe that any option but dsl is good for me??? what do you think? am i being unrealistic? |
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