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Thread ID: 19139	2002-05-09 08:52:00	IT courses and computer techs	Guest (0)	Press F1

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47929	2002-05-09 08:52:00	I was wondering if any computer techs out there could tell me what qualifications they have, and what i need. I want to become a tech but i dont really want to go to uni. Is uni really necessary? I am planning on doing a course at Avonmore next year, The national diploma in computer engineering level 5. Is this enough? I would like to move on to a systems administartor job later on in my career.	Guest (0)
47930	2002-05-09 09:20:00	I did a course 2 years ago that promised to make me a tech and get a job basically anywhere I wanted. It was 'Certificate IV in Computer Maintenance'. This equates to level 4 in the NZQA frame work. Since completing the certificate, I have had no luck in finding employment. Possibly because the next step would have been help desk support but I am deaf and cannot use phones. I have found that most jobs require MSCE which takes money and time (read- lots!) and/or lots of experience (paid) or a PhD in something. My advice would be to do some research with employment agencies. They may be able to give good advice as to what qualifications you need to reach your desired position. Otherwise ask the careers officer at a good polytech or equivalent.	Guest (0)
47931	2002-05-09 10:12:00	I can't comment on the current offerings in diplomas etc, but I would say I've seen quite a few 'qualified' people that would make you question the value of some of the qualifications. A certificate doesn't make you a success. If you have a level of drive and inquisitiveness, and a passion for understanding - you will succeed. If you can strive to know more / do more than the next person, you will get employment. And when you are recognised for your qualities - you will be headhunted into other jobs. Certainly initially, prospective employers use 'certificates' to compare potential employees - but in the end, your depth will be your success. 'Gosh Spock - that's bought tears to my eyes'	Guest (0)
47932	2002-05-09 12:03:00	well i would also love some upto date info as well as i may be closeing down my buisness and going 'back to school' to get some more qualifactions. i will have to look into parttime courses but full time would be far quicker.	Guest (0)
47933	2002-05-09 12:39:00	I think personally (IMOHO) that it all boils down to who you work for. I know one guy who runs a company LAN, intranet, as well as fix the computers they hire out. He started of in the company as a stage hand! On the other hand, I have been asked quite a few times if I had MSCE at pre employment interviews.	Guest (0)
47934	2002-05-09 23:52:00	Have a look at www.teachme.co.nz	Guest (0)
47935	2002-05-10 08:43:00	Hi Robo, can i have a 'chat' with you also, I need some advise/info myself. everyone i talk to seems to just plug their own path and none of their success really astounds me... thanks Johnny	Guest (0)
47936	2002-05-11 11:52:00	Robo doubts the value of the MCSE. Fair enough. But, of course, the new Win2K MCSe is supposedly a lot harder than the old NT4 one. I never did NT4 but I can tell you I need to study hard for the Win2k exams (3 down, 4 to go !). As to the value of the MCSE : sure experience can be way more valuable to an employer, but when you are just starting out and have none then without some sort of qualification or certification you will find it VERY hard to get noticed. I got knocked back *loads* of times before I found employment. And I only got that because one of the guys on the interview board saw my potential. At the time I had no qualifications, no certifications and no experience. My attitude and strong desire to learn convinced him to convince his peers. I think many employers value these attributes, but you still need to get in front of them and have the chance to show you have them. Certifications will help in this regard.	Guest (0)
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