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Thread ID: 124716	2012-05-15 00:20:00	No Jobs, or no tradespeople?	mzee (3324)	PC World Chat

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1275452	2012-05-15 00:20:00	The education system is the same as it was 80 years ago, churning out University students and labourers. Only problem, we don't need labourers any more! Primary School --- Learn to read, write and basic arithmetic, life skills, computer skills. No time wasters like History, Geography, Latin or other languages. If the student is interested they can learn it all from the Internet. Intermediate --- Aptitude & skill tests. Find out what the kids are interested in and what they are good at. More life skills, Insurance, Banking, Budgeting, Law etc. Secondary School -- Split up into Trade Schools, with a separate division for University entrants. Every child should leave school with a Trade qualification. There should be no drop-outs.	mzee (3324)
1275453	2012-05-15 00:31:00	Sure, In a perfect world everyone would fit the education model, Life would throw no curve balls, everyone would see things the same no matter what their level of maturity and life experience, All peoples goals would be the same, we would all be educated to the same standard, and have the perfectly suited job waiting for us the day we leave the perfect education system. I hear this model works well in North Korea.	Metla (12)
1275454	2012-05-15 01:12:00	The education system is the same as it was 80 years ago, churning out University students and labourers. Only problem, we don't need labourers any more! Primary School --- Learn to read, write and basic arithmetic, life skills, computer skills. No time wasters like History, Geography, Latin or other languages. If the student is interested they can learn it all from the Internet. Intermediate --- Aptitude & skill tests. Find out what the kids are interested in and what they are good at. More life skills, Insurance, Banking, Budgeting, Law etc. Secondary School -- Split up into Trade Schools, with a separate division for University entrants. Every child should leave school with a Trade qualification. There should be no drop-outs. So what do you do if the child doesn't want to learn. Come across a few of those left school at the school leaving age and asked why they left school, and you usally get one of two answers, school is boring or they cannot teach me anything as I know it all. :)	Trev (427)
1275455	2012-05-15 01:18:00	As i see it, its just a symptom of our weak economy. if industry was strong then these people would be soaked up, Not everyone is cut out to be a tradesman or university graduate (both options sound terrible to be honest) The world isn't black and white. The simple fact is that plenty of people are cut out to be cleaners, shelf stackers, servo attendants, shovel hands, machine operators, painters, gardeners, landscapers, labourers,truck drivers,decorators, cooks/caterers,checkout operators,bank tellers, etc etc etc. They simply go to Aussie where the economy can soak them up and provide a constant wage. If we trained them all up to a role they don't fit, then they would simply be unemployed cleaners who happen to have a trade, which they would no doubt take to Aussie.	Metla (12)
1275456	2012-05-15 01:37:00	You still need brains, some natural ability and the right attitude to get a trade. Not every numbskull is capable en-fact most are not which is why they end up as cleaners, labourers etc. Christchurch is going to suck up a lot of trades and labourers once it does finally get going. A lot of trades are actually just as hard and in some cases harder than a degree depending if it's a real degree or one of those Fairy ones	gary67 (56)
1275457	2012-05-15 01:51:00	I couldn't believe the volume of **** taught when I was at school... long ago now. I'd agree to more emphasis on real life skills. Every kid should be capable of understanding basic car maintenance, tyre changes, oil changes, jump starting, push starting, tyre inflation and checking. All should know enough to be confident with a screwdriver or hammer around the home, and be able to fix holes in gib board, sand, seal and paint. Understand the differences between non zinced, zinced and stainless fixings, and be able to tell the difference on sight. Understand interest, compounding interest, and the huge difference between 5% per annum, and 5% per month. Appreciate just how much of their working life they risk giving to the bank in servicing a 25 year mortgage. Basic budgetting, and emphasis on the big difference between needs and wants when spending their hard earned cash. Understanding the purpose of taxes, and where they get spent. Our roads, buildings, sewers and health care are taken for granted, but they're far from free. Understanding that welfare benefits come at a cost to those who actually work. Understanding that theft hurts the victims, and that the assumption "they're insured" does not mean the incidents cost the victims nothing. Understanding that insurance fraud costs everyone. All this could be taught in a week.	Paul.Cov (425)
1275458	2012-05-15 02:21:00	I couldn't believe the volume of **** taught when I was at school... long ago now. I'd agree to more emphasis on real life skills. Every kid should be capable of understanding basic car maintenance, tyre changes, oil changes, jump starting, push starting, tyre inflation and checking. All should know enough to be confident with a screwdriver or hammer around the home, and be able to fix holes in gib board, sand, seal and paint. Understand the differences between non zinced, zinced and stainless fixings, and be able to tell the difference on sight. Understand interest, compounding interest, and the huge difference between 5% per annum, and 5% per month. Appreciate just how much of their working life they risk giving to the bank in servicing a 25 year mortgage. Basic budgetting, and emphasis on the big difference between needs and wants when spending their hard earned cash. Understanding the purpose of taxes, and where they get spent. Our roads, buildings, sewers and health care are taken for granted, but they're far from free. Understanding that welfare benefits come at a cost to those who actually work. Understanding that theft hurts the victims, and that the assumption "they're insured" does not mean the incidents cost the victims nothing. Understanding that insurance fraud costs everyone. All this could be taught in a week. where the **** is that +1 button?	Metla (12)
1275459	2012-05-15 02:28:00	I couldn't believe the volume of **** taught when I was at school... long ago now. I'd agree to more emphasis on real life skills. Every kid should be capable of understanding basic car maintenance, tyre changes, oil changes, jump starting, push starting, tyre inflation and checking. All should know enough to be confident with a screwdriver or hammer around the home, and be able to fix holes in gib board, sand, seal and paint. Understand the differences between non zinced, zinced and stainless fixings, and be able to tell the difference on sight. Understand interest, compounding interest, and the huge difference between 5% per annum, and 5% per month. Appreciate just how much of their working life they risk giving to the bank in servicing a 25 year mortgage. Basic budgetting, and emphasis on the big difference between needs and wants when spending their hard earned cash. Understanding the purpose of taxes, and where they get spent. Our roads, buildings, sewers and health care are taken for granted, but they're far from free. Understanding that welfare benefits come at a cost to those who actually work. Understanding that theft hurts the victims, and that the assumption "they're insured" does not mean the incidents cost the victims nothing. Understanding that insurance fraud costs everyone. All this could be taught in a week. where the **** is that +1 button? x2	gary67 (56)
1275460	2012-05-15 02:28:00	My autistic son is in Spotswood college where he is not being taught 1+1, that will be of no use to him later on in life. He is being taught how to cross the road, go to get groceries, etc He is 11, will be there till he is 21 probably (but i hope he is able to leave earlier)	Gobe1 (6290)
1275461	2012-05-15 03:45:00	Not everyone is cut out to be a tradesman or university graduate (both options sound terrible to be honest) The world isn't black and white. The simple fact is that plenty of people are cut out to be painters, gardeners, landscapers, etc etc etc. Hmmm, I'd say that can be pretty close to a trade. Trades aren't just to do with assembling buildings. Also I wonder how many people haven't found their talent yet? Think about the middle ages or earlier even. How many brillinat programmers thrived in whatever job they had back then, never knowing their skill hadn't been doscovered? Or mechanics? Or something like that....	pctek (84)
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