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| 1300481 | 2012-09-27 04:52:00 | They're all pretty damn good these days just different ideas about how to do things. I think the way to sum them up (although others are encouraged to disagree :) ) is: KDE is shiney and infinitely adjustable and their file manager (dolphin) is a work of art and Konqueror is brilliant as a file manager when you have websites with ftp. Just treats your ftp as another file Gnome assumes a lot about the way you want to operate, so it's a lot like Windows and Mac in that attitude but it just works for the most part. The Gnome file manager is getting better but it's still not a patch on Dolphin. As a consequence I use Dolphin when I'm in gnome in any case, but I like the way that Gnome handles desktop effects, better than KDE IMHO. I agree with your comments regarding KDE. I switched from Ubuntu 10.04 (Gnome) to Kubuntu 12.04 (KDE) a few months ago and I'm very impressed with KDE. Indeed Dolphin is a much more polished file manager. I was never happy with Nautilus in Gnome. I actually use Krusader now though almost exclusively in Kubuntu. I like to attach comments to many files and could never do this reliably in Ubuntu but can in Kubuntu (although the nepomuk repository is as complex as anything I've seen elsewhere, I wish the developers would keep in mind the old saying: KISS). The one thing about KDE that does seem to be lacking is mouse key shortcuts. In Ubuntu I could hold down the Meta (Windows) key and use the mouse scroll wheel to zoom the desktop (a very intuitive method I think). I've never been able to achieve this in Kubuntu (I have to use Meta++ on the keyboard then move the mouse to where I want to magnify, then Meta+- to revert to normal. Very clumsy in comparison I feel). |
Rod J (451) | ||
| 1300482 | 2012-09-27 05:36:00 | Yep, I'm loving the shortcuts as well, particularly the 'press the windows key to bring up thumbnails of all open apps'. | Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1300483 | 2012-09-27 06:31:00 | Yep, I'm loving the shortcuts as well, particularly the 'press the windows key to bring up thumbnails of all open apps'. The KDE Desktop does that by putting your mouse cursor in the top left of the screen. If you have "Desktop Effects" switched on in Gnome, try Ctrl+Alt+ Down arrow and you'll begin to see why multiple desktops are so handy. I just got all keen again and I've installed Enlightenment, I'm about to give it a try You're probably just about getting to the point of wondering why Windows is so popular when it is so far behind. :) |
Yorick (8120) | ||
| 1300484 | 2012-09-27 07:17:00 | The KDE Desktop does that by putting your mouse cursor in the top left of the screen. If you have "Desktop Effects" switched on in Gnome, try Ctrl+Alt+ Down arrow and you'll begin to see why multiple desktops are so handy. I just got all keen again and I've installed Enlightenment, I'm about to give it a try You're probably just about getting to the point of wondering why Windows is so popular when it is so far behind. :) Ok, maybe I'm using KDE then, I used the top left cursor before realising the start button did the same thing. Could have sworn I was in GNOME though - ah well. I must admit I am wondering why people use windows. Dolphin is a very nice file manager, the top left corner to bring up open windows + favourites, with an option to bring up all apps is brilliant. And installing software, which was my main concern, is dead simple. And to cap it all, even if I have to reinstall linux for some reason my docs are still there. I haven't noticed a substantial power drain with OpenSUSE like I did with Linux Mint either. Took a while to get all the community repositories, but definitely worth the effort. I'm loving OpenSUSE :) If I have time in the school holidays, I'll show off to my family and put lubuntu on my old laptop :) |
Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1300485 | 2012-09-27 07:53:00 | OK so Enlightenment not so enlightening, Windowmaker does the same with more style, posting this from LXDE which is, I think, the easiest of the DEs to get used to if you're shifting from Windows. Grease lightning fast, a bit like Win2K on a quadcore box with many gigs of Ram. Has a similar feel to Win2K as well, simple stripped back and no nonsense, although Compiz does work and so you can have desktop effects if you feel the need. Uses the Gnome Compiz manager so the keyboard shortcuts are the same as Gnome. Very cool, XFCE used to be my favorite of the lightweight desktops, I might have to revisit that. | Yorick (8120) | ||
| 1300486 | 2012-09-27 08:32:00 | Wondering why people continue using Windows? If you strike a few of the issues others have, with the multiplicity of linii, you would gain an insight. At least, when you buy a computer with M$ finest you will not have to trawl the internet in order to get your frigging hardware working, I have been fu**arsing about for several weeks in order to get a stable usable linux mint on my netbook. Getting close but still a couple of issues. THE WEAKNESS with Linux is the crazy dilution of effort, as soon as 2 developers disagree, you have 2 new Linux distros and neither will be any better. For all that I still keep trying, stupid much? Just my two cents worth. |
KarameaDave (15222) | ||
| 1300487 | 2012-09-27 08:42:00 | Wondering why people continue using Windows? If you strike a few of the issues others have, with the multiplicity of linii, you would gain an insight. At least, when you buy a computer with M$ finest you will not have to trawl the internet in order to get your frigging hardware working, I have been fu**arsing about for several weeks in order to get a stable usable linux mint on my netbook. Getting close but still a couple of issues. THE WEAKNESS with Linux is the crazy dilution of effort, as soon as 2 developers disagree, you have 2 new Linux distros and neither will be any better. For all that I still keep trying, stupid much? Just my two cents worth. Nah, not stupid. Sometimes then end result is worth the effort. Just curious here, what issues are you having with mint? Just interesting to see the flip side of the coin. |
Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1300488 | 2012-09-27 08:46:00 | While I don't disagree that Linux can be a pain at times, I can't agree that in Windows you do not have to trawl the internet to get hardware working! And even when you do, then of course you upgrade Windows and find you can't get new drivers etc. At least in Linux, once someone writes a non-proprietary driver for something, it sticks around. |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1300489 | 2012-09-27 08:47:00 | I can't agree that in Windows you do not have to trawl the internet to get hardware working! What's worse is trying almost everything to try and get a device working, then realise it came loose when you were last working inside the PC. :o |
pcuser42 (130) | ||
| 1300490 | 2012-09-27 08:58:00 | O.K. Network manager drops the WIFI every 10 minutes, EVERY 10 minutes, then it fails to reconnect. The only fix is to uninstall it and install WICD, then my T-stick won't work. It took a week to find out how enable the 3d desktop effects that were a one click task in Mint 10 It is noticeably slower booting, needs a custom power manager to get 3/4 of the battery life when in Windows It still takes twice as long to load a webpage as Windows (Firefox 15.01 in both with identical profile) I am not a great fan of Windows but to me it is working better overall. The opposite of the situation 4 years ago when if I wanted performance and ease of use I booted Mint. Once again just my 2 cents worth. Good luck. |
KarameaDave (15222) | ||
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