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Thread ID: 124759 2012-05-17 21:39:00 M$ Charging $99 To Remove OEM Crapware SurferJoe46 (51) PC World Chat
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1275940 2012-05-18 03:14:00 I love ya, Speedy! I DO!

But - I gotta reserve judgement until I see the whites of their eyes. (Gads! I hope there aren't any Brits here tonight!)

Nope I'm definitely not there i'm here
gary67 (56)
1275941 2012-05-18 03:19:00 The problem is what they consider NOT to be crapware (eg Norton ??)

I'd consider a PC 100% free of crapware if it emerges from the factory containing only Windows+updates and drivers (of the non-intrusive variety), and perhaps Adobe Reader/Flash and a fully functional copy of Microsoft Office. Anything more is not crapware-free.
pcuser42 (130)
1275942 2012-05-18 03:28:00 Not Adobe reader that is really Bloated and there are far better pdf readers anyway gary67 (56)
1275943 2012-05-18 03:38:00 Not Adobe reader that is really Bloated and there are far better pdf readers anyway

Or at least some PDF reader.
pcuser42 (130)
1275944 2012-05-18 03:46:00 re HP's 'announcement'
Hmmn , cant find any other reference to this at all apart from the one PCW news page (& some sites quoting from that link)
Not even mentioned at all on HP's news site (that I can find) , not a good sign
www8.hp.com

Lots of info about HP job loss's etc etc , so will they really turn down that extra cash for crapware ??
This is the same company that told us they were getting out of the PC business :banana :banana
1101 (13337)
1275945 2012-05-18 04:01:00 Nope I'm definitely not there i'm here

OK then! Damn the torpedoes! Don't fire until ------------- < Oh -- I think I said that already >
SurferJoe46 (51)
1275946 2012-05-18 04:45:00 AND --- HP's M$ Certification number on the case is NOT the real license number. Actually it is, its the other way around -- When places like HP / Dell produce machines they use a image and license thats allowed on multi machines.

Its not uncommon to have 3 or 4 (or more) PC's all HP's all of the same Model, with all the same factory installed COA. You can get that COA from various software, but if you tried to reinstall from fresh, MS DVD/CD and use the key, while it will install it wont activate, even over the phones/ Help desk.

You cant imagine, HP manually entering thousands of COA's on each separate Machine before its shipped. But the COA on the outside is a real COA only on that PC.
wainuitech (129)
1275947 2012-05-18 05:02:00 I'd consider a PC 100% free of crapware if it emerges from the factory containing only Windows+updates and drivers (of the non-intrusive variety), and perhaps Adobe Reader/Flash and a fully functional copy of Microsoft Office. Anything more is not crapware-free.

Well I would add a bit of anti-malware, CCleaner, Foxit and an email client as well.
Crapware?
pctek (84)
1275948 2012-05-18 05:11:00 Well I would add a bit of anti-malware, CCleaner, Foxit and an email client as well.
Crapware?

I'd give you that: it is free software after all...

But Norton, McAfee etc is definitely crapware. :p
pcuser42 (130)
1275949 2012-05-18 05:20:00 If I ever bought a brand-name PC it would be a format and reinstall as soon as I got it. Agent_24 (57)
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