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49531 2002-05-19 04:38:00 Someone keeps sending this virus to me. It appears at least once a day. Fortunately NAV finds it every time (so far) and renders it harmless. I have just done a complete virus check on my computer and Norton tells me it is clean. I have the latest NAV with automatic updates so it should be correct.

What I want to find out is : is it possible to find out who is sending the virus so I could try to stop it from being sent?

Any advice would be most welcome

John Robb
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49532 2002-05-19 05:08:00 How are you actually receiving it? Webmail? which ISP? attachment? other? Guest (0)
49533 2002-05-19 06:06:00 klez finds random sender names & subjects, as i'm sure you now know.
Look at the headers, and you should find that the return-path is what it should be
To do this, select the message in outlook express then file > properties > details > message source.

Here's one i got. You will see something similar.

Return-Path: <XXXXXX@xtra.co.nz>
Delivered-To: ****ME***@paradise.net.nz
X-Envelope-To: ****ME****@paradise.net.nz
Received: (qmail 89955 invoked by alias); 4 May 2002 07:33:56 -0000
Received: from ip210-55-105-82.interspeed.co.nz (HELO chronus.interspeed.co.nz) (210.55.105.82)
by debbie.paradise.net.nz with SMTP; 4 May 2002 07:33:56 -0000
Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz [210.86.15.129])
by chronus.interspeed.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6574AF2C4
for <chris@millerton.co.nz>; Sat, 4 May 2002 19:26:51 +1200 (NZST)
Received: from Miz ([210.54.74.164]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP
id <20020504073325.BYZW13342.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@Miz>
for <****ME****@**REALLY*ME**.co.nz>; Sat, 4 May 2002 19:33:25 +1200
From: chris <****ME****@**REALLY*ME**.co.nz>
To: ****ME****@**REALLY*ME**.co.nz
Subject: A funny website

Ok, i've changed the addys to protect privacy, but, in this example the true sender is the xtra customer at the top,
even though the email appeared to come from myself, I was able to confirm it was 'xxx@xtra' with just one phone call, as the sender was a friend who just went online, and didn't think virus updates were important. He does now!
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49534 2002-05-19 09:49:00 Thanks for the propmt reply. It comes in the form of an email and Norton immediately goes into spasm with about 4 warning messages that something is missing or it cant find something and then I simply delete the email.

I am with xtra

There is an attachmetn but I haven't ever opened it.

Look forward to your comments

Thanks

John
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49535 2002-05-19 10:39:00 Hi Chris

Thanks for the propmt reply.
The messages are coming at my wife's address and the details are are below.

I have only one message that I can check on at present. I do know who ericliu is and will be talking to him tomorrow.

Neither of us knows who 'cffan' is and I am rather loathe to email this address as I have heard of stories where one can get deluged with spam once they get hold of an address. I will send an email to xtra to see if they can help.

Any further advice would be appreciated

Many thanks

John

Return-Path: <ericliu@am990.co.nz>
Received: from Qydih ([219.88.15.253]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP
id <20020519022140.PGPA23704.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@Qydih>
for <alison@robb.co.nz>; Sun, 19 May 2002 14:21:40 +1200
From: cffan <cffan@xtra.co.nz>
To: alison@robb.co.nz
Subject: Questionnaire
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=P05dvmlUZh2127YUwILt3f95J2zwQ6N
Message-Id: <20020519022140.PGPA23704.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@Qydih>
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 14:22:12 +1200
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49536 2002-05-19 11:10:00 You need not worry about the attached txt message. Nortons AV places this where the attachment was, it will say something to the effect of what the virus was, and that's about it.
This virus shows us good reason not to give email address's to people who love forwarding whole emails of 'fun stuff'. my old @ihug address attracts spam and viri more than anything else, simply because it has been round the block too often.
If i had no morals, and a lot more skill than i do, i would write a virus that not only spreads, but also harvests email addresses by sending them back to a central data base for later sale to spammers. If it hasn't already been done, it is only a matter of time.
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49537 2002-05-20 03:00:00 From what I understand so far after reading up on the virus (plus I've received a few of them already!).

1. ericliu is the sender (correct me if I am wrong) because the return path is to his email address.

2. ccfan was probably an email address taken randomly from one of ericliu's email folder. This create confusion if you email to ccfan advising him/her of virus infection (when in fact he/she is not!).

Hope this helps.
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