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Thread ID: 127036 2012-09-30 22:51:00 My iphone 5 review. robsonde (120) Press F1
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1304311 2012-12-13 08:53:00 I haven't had the opportunity to try the flash phones out, maybe this w'end.

For me it comes down to price. Androids are near half price to the iPhone - the nicer ones that is. Will check out if the Nexus 4 is slow :p Where can you try them - appliance stores have them? I would probably get an Android over a Windows Phone due price and that more software and beta software (ie Google) are released to Android and iPhone users.

My current Nokia C6-01 does lag for some seconds with apps :lol: but it does the job. Ovi Maps are great but they don't cover as many countries but I find that local simcards are part and part of travel costs and even Ovi Maps can do with a simcard - GPS is quicker and I can use it for other stuff too.

If price wasn't a concern for me, well my degree is in business and I have a thing for efficiency. I think thou if I could afford a $1,000 phone maybe it comes down to individual needs and wants.
Nomad (952)
1304312 2012-12-13 09:35:00 2degrees are the only place that stock the Nexus 4 "in store" in the wellington area, maybe JB Hi-Fi?

That's mostly the opportunity, price. Although since apple got there first and "benchmarked" a price most smartphones are inexplicably overpriced at the retail outlets, $1000 is huge for a phone, You see most "3rd party" (I.E, not chain store retailers) doing $800 whilst they should be around $600. I just wish someone would manufacture a decent mid rance WP/Android that didn't look like a POS or have severely limited functions. The S3 Mini comes close but really just clutters the branding.
The Error Guy (14052)
1304313 2012-12-13 10:01:00 Really, i was really disappointed when i used my mates nexus 4, still super laggy. You scroll and its so obvously noticable that its lagging behind, with my iphone 4 you really need to swipe you finger fast before you start to see the screen move behind your finger

Sure you didn't mean the Galaxy Nexus?
N4 "officially" came out in NZ yesterday with the Warehouse preorders being shipped.


I have never had a Nexus lag on me,
My N7 does at times, but I've got *so* much crap on there, and have a fair bit running all the time. It's not a lot, but I notice it occasionally.


I think with Android people seek out the lag, so they can slam it, heck with both OS's people look for flaws actively and as such, they notice them and point them out. If you use iOS will come across times when it does lag, not as much as a Galaxy with touchwiz but it's still there in places.
Yeah same. It's easy to pickup even my workmates iPhone 5, tries opening up the App Store, or SMS, or contacts... you notice not just the delay in it displaying it, but the jittery animations.... After a clean reboot :p
It's *always* gonna happen, for any device on occasion.


I haven't had the opportunity to try the flash phones out, maybe this w'end.
They're *nice*, huge improvement once you break the $600 barrier usually :0


Will check out if the Nexus 4 is slow :p Where can you try them - appliance stores have them?
I'm yet to see one, too new :-/


2degrees are the only place that stock the Nexus 4 "in store" in the wellington area, maybe JB Hi-Fi?
Oh real? Do they have them *in* stock? :D

I'm still waiting for my big order of 8 or 9 of them to come in from the US, straight from Google :)
Chilling_Silence (9)
1304314 2012-12-13 10:53:00 On the point of a ipod touch 2g lagging.

1. Its 3 years old
2. When it was released it wasn't
3. Now that its running a more intense os its bound to lag
4. Ipod touches are a rip, iPhones have consistently had more than twice the performance
5. Get a mid range 3 year old android device and install the latest os and see what happens.

But i will say that in the latest gen of ipod touches they have been greatly improved to the point where the features are actually usable.
Slankydudl (16687)
1304315 2012-12-13 11:10:00 the Galaxy Nexus is in no way laggy at all

seems to me your missing the boat

heard of project butter???

my nexus is super smooth
GameJunkie (72)
1304316 2012-12-13 16:06:00 Google Maps App by Google for Apple's iOS is now available

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zqwerty (97)
1304317 2012-12-13 20:12:00 pfft GameJunkie (72)
1304318 2012-12-13 21:04:00 1. Its 3 years old


So? Does age make an electronics device perform any less? Perhaps if you were trying to install new software that was designed for newer hardware you would see some performance issues. A 10 year old XP machine with a clean install of XP will perform just as well as it did 10 years ago,



2. When it was released it wasn't


Wasn't laggy? Perhaps not, then again. 3 yrs ago people weren't avtively looking for jitter/dropped frames in devices so perhaps it wasn't noticed. Point in case, it lags now.



3. Now that its running a more intense os its bound to lag


You mean iOS 2.2.1 which didn't perform well so was upgraded to 4.2 which was equally bad? I'd give it some credit that a newer OS is going to cause some stress (not trying to start a war here) but I honestly thought that the whole point of Apple was that everything just worked perfectly? Would they not have trimmed features out that cause issues (Multitasking for one) so that it ran perfectly?



4. Ipod touches are a rip, iPhones have consistently had more than twice the performance


Agreed, then again, so are iPhones. $4/500 for a touch screen media player, double that price and you get radio and GPS installed. For the first three iPhone/Touch generations the specs were about .same (as far as processor + performance went) After the 3GS things heated up and the iPhone pulled away from the media player scene



5. Get a mid range 3 year old android device and install the latest os and see what happens.


Well, good luck with that, you won't find the latest ROM for most :D Anyway, you can't install past iOS 4 on the 2G touch so lets assume that we'll go for the highest available ROM for our test subject, probably android 2.3.5 since Honeycomb is tablet and ICS require RAM 512Mb (or is it 1GB?)+ and GPU support which isn't available on any mid rance devices from 3 yrs ago.

Turns out I'm wrong, here's a HTC Hero running ICS www.youtube.com - Yup it lags. Running 2.3.5 it's only noticeable paging new windows for the first scroll. The point is though, Apple devices are just as good/bad as WP/iOS As we can see here.

If course I have doctored this test in your favour by not including something like the Galaxy S1 or searching for the most stable ROM for this phone. I wanted to show it in a similar light. My old Galaxy 5 (utter crap box if I ever saw one) Ran 2.3.5 smooth as butter most times. Battery life was amazing too.



But i will say that in the latest gen of ipod touches they have been greatly improved to the point where the features are actually usable.


I would like to agree but what's been improved? Other than the colours, a meaningless spec upgrade and someone not pressing 'shift' when they transformed the draft image in photoshop (and then thinking hey, why not longer anyway?) I don't know of any feature improvements? Flash for the camera is definitely one though.

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This isn't meant to be a flame war/bash iOS, merely to highlight that almost all OS's are the same to some degree. Re reading this, it's quite a rant :p oops.
The Error Guy (14052)
1304319 2012-12-13 21:35:00 I had a play with a SIII the other day, and it's too big for me.
I starting to feel comfortable with the size of mine now.
mikebartnz (21)
1304320 2012-12-13 21:39:00 I enjoy android but the stock ROM's are awful, put super nexus ROM on 3x phones, 2 SII's and an SIII. User feedback was amazingly positive.
I tried the SuperNexus rom on my SIII but couldn't get Wi-fi working so reverted back. Has that been cured yet.
mikebartnz (21)
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