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| Thread ID: 21474 | 2002-06-27 04:32:00 | FAQ #2 Multi-booting a Windows System | Graham Petrie (449) | Press F1 |
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| 57676 | 2002-06-27 08:37:00 | ROFL HAHAHAHAHA Oh dear, hehe Whilst reading the original FAQ post I was wondering how long/if Merlin would find SOMETHING to comment on, since partitioning seems to be his little "pet" subject... Well Merlin, now that you've shown how much you know by asking questions you obviously know the answer to...can you give me a hyperlink to your latest thesis and help source on disk partitioning, since I don't see you making the effort to write something like this :D Callum |
Callum Hey (283) | ||
| 57677 | 2002-06-27 08:46:00 | 1. Sorry, the bit about setting up all the partitions first using fdisk was originally written for partition magic using a pmagic bootdisk. I modified it for fdisk without reading it through afterwards - will make the changes. Thanks. 2. I don't want to recommend apps I haven't used - I have given a couple of options, and people can search the web for apps which will do what they want. I will modify things to ensure that it is not ambiguous. 3. Probably - not to my knowledge (unless you have more than one physical drive), and I am not trying to write an advanced guide to setting up a multi-boot system, but rather a beginners guide which works, and covers most options. It is up to the reader to then go and learn more from other sources, or from self learning. 4. I have said that you must set the boot partition active. Any more info is likely to confuse. If someone wants to learn more about this they should read an article on partitioning. This should be done for this FAQ, and if not, I know a good one which we can link to. 5. Such as? 6. Yep - third party bootloader. Will put that in 7. See 6. Cheers. Wait for v0.2 G P |
Graham Petrie (449) | ||
| 57678 | 2002-06-27 09:10:00 | LOL - Thanks Callum - but I refuse to bite. I have a grandfather like Merlin - even a casual comment like "Isn't the weather good today?" can illicit a 10min diatribe about the current global weather trends, and why I am wrong. I have learnt that keeping my mouth shut generally makes things easier for everyone! However, I am more than happy to have someone-else open their mouth for me. Cheers! | Graham Petrie (449) | ||
| 57679 | 2002-06-27 10:32:00 | One speaks with authority only when one has knowledge . What you have described does not require the creation of multiple primary partitions since you have no idea of the limitations and conflicts that exist within MS operating systems . FAT16 . microsoft . com/default . aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q118335" target="_blank">support . microsoft . com FAT32 . microsoft . com/default . aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q154997" target="_blank">support . microsoft . com NTFS . microsoft . com/default . aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q100108" target="_blank">support . microsoft . com Research where the startup files for operating systems are located . This also answers the questions above . . microsoft . com/default . aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q114841" target="_blank">support . microsoft . com To test your instructions, follow them letter for letter . Note the areas requiring attention . Consider two dual booting senarios First senario Create a single primary partition and install MS DOS 6 . 22 . Then install Windows 95A Start in Windows 95A Then in DOS 6 . 22 Then in Windows 95A What happens and why? Second senario Create a single primary partition and install MS DOS 6 . 22 . Then install Windows 95B or 98 or ME What happens and why? How can Windows be installed Start in Windows 9x Then in DOS 6 . 22 Then in Windows 9x What happens and why? . microsoft . com/default . aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q121963" target="_blank">support . microsoft . com When you know why, then you can explain how . |
Merlin (503) | ||
| 57680 | 2002-06-28 03:56:00 | It is stated in the FAQ that you must have a primary partition to boot your OS from - not true for Linux. It all looks more complicated than I have experienced. What I have done is: 1. Create your partitions using PQMagic. 2. Install all MS OSs making the destination partition active before installing. 3. Install Linux last. I have either used LILO to boot all the OSs from the mbr or installed the freeware boot manager XOSL (in which case LILO has to be in the / partition for Linux) - have had no problems with this simple technique. John |
JohnD (509) | ||
| 57681 | 2002-06-28 05:16:00 | Graham, I've had a good long read of this - in fact I've had to read it a couple of times for it to make much sense to me. I'm a good guinea pig to try it out because I've got an old 486 that I want to dual-boot MS-DOS & Win 3.x with Win 95. I've already done it twice but certain DOS programs won't work so I'm going to have to do it again and I'll follow your instructions next time. I feel that a few more explanations could be added here and there. For instance you say to copy the contents of the CD-ROM to the hard drive and install setup from there, but you don't actually give the commands for copying in DOS. If I'm to do that I'll have to fish out my notes to find the command. Others may not even have notes to look up :-) Also, one of my problems with my dual-boot is that there is no sound in the Win 3.x. I think it might be because I installed Win 95 first whereas you say to install the oldest OS first. I hope that's all it is, otherwise I'm wondering if I have to install sound drivers, etc in each OS? You've not made it very clear whether this is so or not but as I said, it might be my setup. Can't think of anything else right now but I'm keen to follow your instructions, they are quite different from the instructions that I followed. |
Susan B (19) | ||
| 57682 | 2002-06-28 07:13:00 | These instructions are entirely from my own experience, and due to the length of the FAQ, there is probably going to have to be a fair amount of editing. I also do not profess to know everything, and some instructions may not work for the OS's I have not had experience with. As far as drivers go, yes, you must install drivers separately for each oS. Each uses different drivers, and each accesses them out f their own windows folder. I am extremely glad you are going to test the instructions as I do not have a spare machine to run a test on, and so, they were created from memory etc, not from an actual run through. (That is why Merlin was able to poke a few holes in it). Please post any probs you have, and I guarantee to be able to answer 99% of them, and will make changes if necessary. I wish to reinforce that this FAQ qill need one or two iterations before the insructions are fool-proof. Anyone else who finds problems, please post them (With solutions if possible) as I know that I have forgotten some things etc. I have thick skin, and can take a bit of a bashing as long as it is constructive. I have no time for negative criticisms that do not acheive anything, except instill a false feeling of power in the person making them. I do not want to add a disclaimer for things going wrong as I like to stand behind what I say. So, if anyone has any problems, feel free to ask for a solution. However, don't blame me for lost data bcause you could not be bothered backing up!! As far as Linux is concerned, yes you may be right JohnD, but I have purposely left Linux out. you may note that the FAQ is called Multi-booting Windows. Graham L MAY be doing a dual-booting Windows and Linux FAQ. Although I have done this successfully, I could not by any stretch of the imagination say I am an expert in this, so I am leaving it to the expert. G P |
Graham Petrie (449) | ||
| 57683 | 2002-07-02 05:18:00 | Nice work, clear instructions. However as Susan B points out, copy in dos isn't user freindly - it sounds as if you had another working pc available to help you do the copy operation (what i think, based on what i think you wrote). Based on my experience, any type of install for someone not a kingpin in installs/multipartition-installs (like merlin perhaps :-) ) is a lot easier with a second pc to use as a reference, so it might be worth adding something like this in. cheers, markOS X. |
markOS X (494) | ||
| 57684 | 2002-07-06 02:31:00 | You can search google.com for Ranish Partition Manager, I've used that before, but only for patitioning Fat32, it says it'll work with others mind you | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 57685 | 2002-10-30 23:07:00 | test | Graham Petrie (449) | ||
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