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Thread ID: 127120 2012-10-05 00:05:00 Fibre - Making the switch The Error Guy (14052) Press F1
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1305291 2012-10-05 04:08:00 True that, still in NZ $99 for 50/30 mbps unlimited boradband is an absolute steal. I'll be grabbing that for our flat at uni next year. Set up some good network gear and split the xost down. One floor of apartments is 9 people. $12 per person isn't bad. If I can invest in some really nice network gear I could even get the the floors above and below on. Dunno what orcon would say about that though. 27 uni students would create a large sum of traffic I would immagine. Assuming each used 50GB that's 1350 GB per month. Yikes
If they ever ask just say that you've Chill over. They'll probably nod their heads and say 'that would do it' :D
Nick G (16709)
1305292 2012-10-05 04:14:00 Chill downloads allot of "videos" eh ;)
It may be fast but does it have the bandwidth to support 27 users at once?
Slankydudl (16687)
1305293 2012-10-05 06:28:00 If we got the 100/50mbps connection we'd be right. If telecom can put a school of 400 + staff and a boarding community of 180 on a 2/2mbps DSL line then i'm pretty sure 100/50 would do it :D The Error Guy (14052)
1305294 2012-10-05 07:06:00 We had the telstra guy here the other night in Chch offering us fibre + cellphones for all 3 of us and landline or whatever probably a LAN phone I guess and it was actually going to cost us more for what we already have on copper so we said no gary67 (56)
1305295 2012-10-05 07:46:00 Just wondering what your thoughts would be on this.

I would say your UPS powered coms gear would be useful only for the output of the LED's.
If the other end of the fibre is in Wellington, there won't be much of anything coming your way for a while.
fred_fish (15241)
1305296 2012-10-05 07:49:00 I think we need to readdress the availability of phone / net services after an earthquake, coz I've got zero confidence in any tech later than carrier pigeon still being reliable.

The phone network in it's copper form relies on power. Uninterrupted power from one end to the other. And the fibre and wireless forms also rely on power to the various bits of tech dotted around town, so you've got two vulnerabilities - the physical phone lines / fibres / cell sites, and the power to these different bits of infrastructure.

Take out any component, and the rest will struggle with the shifted load (and load during a disaster will likely be well beyond peak capabilities).

Then you've got the question of power. Sure, many bits of tech have backup power, like the cabinets, cell towers... all except that last mile into your house.

The coper network needs 50v supplied from who knows where to keep it working.

If I had to gamble on an emergency communication, it'd be text via cell towers, for a limited time while their backup power remained.

You're in dream land if you think you can pick up a corded phone and dial any number in town to use voice.

As for in-ground cables, well copper is ductile, so it may stretch enough to survive moving ground, but it would need to be modest movement. Where the ground gets heaved half a meter you could probably kiss most cables goodbye.

After a few hours without power your best communication will likely be a spray can onto the wall saying "I'm OK. Meet me at..."

Leave your spray can so they can reply.
Paul.Cov (425)
1305297 2012-10-05 11:56:00 Not quite that Bad Paul, the Christchurch exchange kept working despite the building almost cracking in half. The 50V is rectified from mains power, main exchanges also usually have a backup generator and always have a battery bank. Power for the corded landline is feed down the copper from the exchange. In most minor emergencies you could expect the landline to keep working for close to a day at least without any mains power. In a major earthquake of course there's no telling what will work and what won't, but I wouldn't rate the cellsites chances any higher than the telephone exchanges. The signal to a cellsite is still generally fed over a cable, they are only wireless on the phone side of things. dugimodo (138)
1305298 2012-10-05 20:37:00 Megaphone anybody? Slankydudl (16687)
1305299 2012-10-05 21:21:00 Kinda what I was thinking, fibre is really only as stable as copper in the event of major disaster. In the event of a minor quake both copper and fibre are likely to stay online.

Just one other thing, Chill mentioned to me FX Networks as having given him a reasonable quote in the past. Anyone else have any fibre installers they'd recommend and how much it's likely to cost. I estimate in the $1000 category. Not sure though.

Anyway, cheers for the feedback.
The Error Guy (14052)
1305300 2012-10-06 09:27:00 What are you expecting to pay for? The internal house networking?

The fibre install is free - greatest bargain of the year! If you have an internal network to link to, it won't cost anything.
linw (53)
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