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Thread ID: 21663	2002-07-01 05:17:00	Creating audio CD's with no pause between tracks.	Craig Bellhouse (493)	Press F1

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58734	2002-07-01 05:17:00	I have several "mixed" cd's where there is no pause between tracks when played on a standard cd player. I am attempting to create my own "mixed" cd's of some tracks that I have mixed to mp3 myself, and I also want no pause between the tracks. Currently I use nero 5.5.7.2 and I have an acer CD writer. With nero I am able to set the pause length between tracks to any number of seconds or frames. When I write the CD with 2 frames pause between the tracks, it fails to read as a CD in many of my cd players. In fact I am even unable to play it through winamp or windows CD player. I can play it straight through the cd writer by using headphones into it's internal jack, and pressing the play button, but I am intending it for use on a radio show, and I need it to play in all kinds of standard CD players. Does anyone know how to do it with Nero so it will work, or is there another package I can use. I am prepared to buy software if that is what it takes. Cheers, Craig.	Craig Bellhouse (493)
58735	2002-07-01 06:31:00	Try using the "disk at once" option instead of "track at once". This is supposed to do what you want - it certainly works using Adaptec EasyCD, don't know about Nero tho. Warning-This option closes the disk.	andy (473)
58736	2002-07-01 06:33:00	Yeah, thats what i use anyway, as i use the full capacity of the cd for the music.	Craig Bellhouse (493)
58737	2002-07-01 06:48:00	If you are using Nero (which I see you are) you have to select disc at once AND specify a time interval between track (in you situation you want it to be zero) Note two things though - if there is silence on the end of the mp3, you will have to use trimming software (like the free mp3trim) to remove it. Also it only works if supproted by you CD-writer. Here is a section from the Nero HELP file (you should have read this yourself). Against the often expressed opinion many (but not all) CD recorders are able to burn audio tracks without the 2 seconds gap between the tracks. It's also untrue, that "disc at once" burning means, that a gap of zero seconds is written. The "disc at once" burn method just gives you the freedom to choose a gap length of your choice. Generally it's best to burn audio CDs using the "disc at once" method. To modify the gap between audio tracks just double click a track in a Nero audio compilation. A dialog will pop up, which allows you to enter a pause length of your choice. If you would like to change gaps of several tracks, then select these tracks and choose the menu command Edit->Properties and enter the desired gap length. Note please, that the gap before the first track must be between 2 and 3 seconds with respect to the rainbow book definitions. It wouldn't make much sense to change this gap anyway, because nobody would be able to hear the difference. Once you entered the gaps of your choice click on burn and leave the "disc at once" option checked (if your recorder supports DAO). If your recorder doesn't support DAO or variable gaps in TAO, then you will see a warning, telling you, that some of your gap settings couldn't be applied. In this case your recorder is unable to write the CD, that you want. The only thing you can do in this case is to carefully select your next CD recorder and make sure, that it's capable of DAO writing. Sorry. G P	Graham Petrie (449)
58738	2002-07-01 06:59:00	Cheers, Graham, but I did. However, my cd players are very picky about playing it. I have two cd players of exactly the same model purchased at the same time, and one will play it, the other wont. I am unable to rip the tracks back off the cd, due to ASPI errors, or so AudioGrabber tells me. I am using DAO mode, and have always used DAO mode with audio cd's as I burn a full cd of music at once. Also, the only error that nero had was when I tried to change the first tracks pause to less than two seconds, but I remedied this and it proceeded with no other problems. This cd was however burned onto a $1 warehouse CD. I have had no trouble whatsoever with these before, so I am going to waste a $5 cd of mine to see if it is the media i am using. Will let you know of the results. If anything else comes to mind, I would like to know, perhaps nero is not the best package to use for this or something. Cheers, Craig.	Craig Bellhouse (493)
58739	2002-07-02 01:05:00	Cheers for your comments ppl, but it turned out that it was the cd's i was using, it must have been from a bad batch of them . . . I burned exactly the same files and setup as my first cd onto a $5 CD, and it worked a treat in all my machines . Another Question then: Where can I get cheap CD's from (like $1 per cd) that are good quality???	Craig Bellhouse (493)
58740	2002-07-02 08:51:00	It all depends on your burner, but I use Emtec. they cost about $2 a CD, but the extra cost is made up in quality. Double sided plastic (Not just a painted surface on one side), and never had burnoing problems like on cheaper CD's. Essentially you get what you pay for - there is no such thing as a really good quality $1 CD, but some are better than others. G P	Graham Petrie (449)
58741	2002-07-02 23:01:00	I don't think you can go past "Verbatim, DataLifePlus Colors" disks, at $40 for 25, $1.60 if my maths is right, (including cases), these are 80min disks of course and I've never had any problems with them, highly recommended!	Veale (536)
58742	2002-07-03 01:58:00	Graham is correct with regard to setting the length of the audio gap in Nero... however, have you considered that you may be writing the CD at too high a speed which causes more problems on less-forgiving, older audio cd-players?? Try burning as Graham has suggested @ 4X.... this should get around most playback problems. Post back your results after trying this. Cheers, Lo.	Lohsing (219)
58743	2002-07-03 09:59:00	Thanks for the comments on the cd brands . With regards to the CD burning speed, i was already burning at 8x (my writer is capable of 20x Write) because any attempt to burn this batch of the warehouse CD's at higher than 8x caused errors . (They are rated to 24x) . I have never had this trouble with them before, but I wont be buying them again as I now have 12 CDs I cannot use . It also had nothing to do with the fact I was changing the timing between tracks as I burned a cd of data (at 4x to test) and no audio CD player I have could read it, whereas all my previous data CDs can be read by them . This was solely due to a new batch of substandard CD's and the first one I used just happened to be one I was changing the timing of, and I assumed that was the cause of my problems . Once again, Cheers for all your help with this . Craig .	Craig Bellhouse (493)
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