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60692	2002-07-09 16:13:00	ATA133 is used by IDE devices like HDD, cd-roms ,dvds, etc . It is a transfer rate . KT266a also supports ATA133 but only a few boards . All KT333 boards have ATA133 but not all boards have USB2 . 0 . Here's a little info ATA33 = 33mb/s (megabits/second) ATA66 = 66mb/s ATA100 = 100mb/s ATA133 = 133mb/s USB1 . 0, 1 . 1 = 1 . 5mb/s (low devices) - 12mb/s (high devices) USB2 . 0 = 480mb/s As you can see USB2 . 0 is very new and only a few KT333 boards have them . It is worth to buy motherboard with USB2 . 0 if you're going for KT333, because USB2 . 0 Pci card cost a lot compare to a few buks you spend on built-in USB2 . 0 As for KT333 being faster than KT266, it's quite true but it's that faster than KT266 . only a slight margin . DDR RAM PC2700 (333) is usually used for overclocking but you can use it on normal pc's . The speed is gained only a little bit from PC2100 . PC1600 runs at 100mhz FSB (DDR200) PC2100 runs at 133mhz FSB (DDR266) PC2700 runs at 166mhz FSB (DDR333) AMD cpus run at 100mhz and 133mhz at the moment . Having USB2 . 0 and ATA133 is great but you also need HDD that supports ATA133 to get a full advantage of 133mb/s transfer speed . A lot of storage devices are running on USB2 . 0 now, and I think the bluetooth devices that are for pcs will be running on USB2 . 0 as well . You can also use USB1 . 0 devices on USB2 . 0 port, but the transfer speed will be limited due to the design of the device . Hope this gives you more info .	boom23 (176)
60693	2002-07-10 00:08:00	If no one minds me butting in, could someone please list all the items that require a PCI slot? Mobos usually specify four or five PCI slots even if they have onboard sound, etc so what devices actually use them?	Susan B (19)
60694	2002-07-10 01:15:00	i wouldnt bother with a faster cpu get more memory 256 minimum 512megs if its cheap at the time and get onto cable of you can. I am with Saturn paradise and its great especially for D/loading big files mp3s etc . Also save up and get a bigger hard drive a 60 gig is only about $270 at the moment if you are into gaming get a faster graphics card and larger monitor i use a 21" monitor great for viewing small details also switch to Opera if you want faster D/loads of the net when browsing. I use 98 sec edition thats faster than XP for gaming and is less resource hungry i have 70 gigs of HDD and 768 megs of ram and a 10x burner as well if i were to put all my data onto HDD i would need in excess of 200 gigs . Thank god for cheap cdrs .	kiwibeat (304)
60695	2002-07-10 03:58:00	I don't quite get susan's question. Why do you want the list of all the items that require a PCI slot? that would be heaps?	boom23 (176)
60696	2002-07-10 05:00:00	Susan, the main "types" of cards that would use them include: PCI modems PCI video cards (where no AGP slot exists and only on-board video exists) Extra USB, or USB where no on board TV tuner cards (great, you should try one!) Video capture cards SCSI adapters PCI sound cards Serial and or parallel ports (extras to motherboard ones) PCI Network cards PCI PCMCIA card adaptors I/O controllers Plus many equipment specific ones, for driving peripherals As an indication, among my 3 desktop PCs I have at least 6 of the above types (not all in one PC)	godfather (25)
60697	2002-07-10 05:08:00	> I don't quite get susan's question. Why do you want > the list of all the items that require a PCI slot? > that would be heaps? OK, well I'm just trying to work out exactly what goes in the PCI slots. I know it sounds really dumb but I don't know what devices use them and I need to know how many slots to allow for when I choose my mobo for my new machine. For instance I've got a scanner but it's USB, the printer is on a parallel port, the CD and CD-RW are on the IDE channels, so why do I need heaps of PCI slots to allow for expansion? What am I going to put in a PCI slot now or in the future?	Susan B (19)
60698	2002-07-10 05:15:00	Thank you godfather, I was still typing when you posted your reply. :-) It answers my question a bit better, but I still have to work out what is what. Regarding AGP slots, are they for the graphics card? And if there isn't one, is that because the board has onboard video? What is video capture card? Is that for uploading video from a camera and editing it? Serial and or parallel ports (extras to motherboard ones): so the printer does actually use a PCI slot for the parallel port?	Susan B (19)
60699	2002-07-10 06:41:00	PCI = Peripheral Connection Interface ;) Onboard video is merely a graphics chip which is on the motherboard . It utilises the system memory (eg shared) . With onboard video there may be an AGP slot that you could use instead to put an AGP graphics card in . Some you may need to use a PCI video card instead (others will not be able to disable the onboard video) . If you run out of parallel/serial/USB/IEEE1394 slots on a motherboard you can use a PCI card that will give you some more . You can get PCI network cards . If the network card is a good one (Netgear, Intel, 3Com) it will use considerably less CPU cycles and resources than a onboard NIC or a cheap nasty Realtek NIC (nearly all NICs have realtek chips;)) . If you want to use SCSI devices you will need a SCSI adapter which will be PCI (unless you got some weird motherboard) . RAID Controllers . If you don't have onboard RAID or want better quality RAID than the onboard RAID you'll be using a PCI RAID Controller . Soundcards . Not all mobo's have onboard sounds . Also Onboard sound is generally not very good (if you've got the speakers and ears to tell the difference) . TV Tuner Cards can be used to watch TV on your computer *cough* free sky ;)*cough* Video Capture Card . Edit and/or record videos .	-=JM=- (16)
60700	2002-07-10 06:43:00	Also winmodems the internal (not the USB) need PCI slots.	-=JM=- (16)
60701	2002-07-10 07:02:00	Thanks JM, that makes far more sense now . :-) I knew that PCI = Peripheral Connection Interface, I just couldn't get my head around just exactly what peripherals are . I mean, the hard drive isn't one, I know that, but I didn't know SCSI devices use a PCI adaptor . Regarding RAID, so far I've gathered that its main benefit is when the PC has two hard drives . But someone (you?) said that you can have the CD-RW connected to its own IDE cable instead of sharing with the CD-ROM or hard drive or something . Am I right in assuming that it is an advantage to have RAID for this purpose even if there is only going to be one hard drive? Not all mobos have RAID .	Susan B (19)
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