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Thread ID: 125279 2012-06-18 07:45:00 Winston Peters and the old age pension. mzee (3324) PC World Chat
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1282411 2012-06-18 21:42:00 Winston, banging on about immigrants again.

I think they should just means test the pension, why just be given it if you don't need it?

Define means test??
paulw (1826)
1282412 2012-06-18 22:33:00 Yes indeed. Define means test!
If I save up equivalent of ten years NZ Super does "means test" require that I get no NZ Super for 10 years and only then transfer to NZ Super? So all that lifetime saving would mean I get no extra benefit from having saved! One may as well squander all one's savings at 64 with a world tour!
It is very difficult to live off the pension when you have numerous rising costs for rates, water, health etc. (NZ Super doesn't take into account personal circumstances.) The means test would increase the number of work-arounds - family trusts etc as well as a "spend it before you are assessed" mentality.
coldot (6847)
1282413 2012-06-19 00:55:00 Anyone who tells it as it is gets called a racist these days.

'Good old Enoch', that's what I say...:rolleyes: :lol:
Terry Porritt (14)
1282414 2012-06-19 01:00:00 I have almost finished reading Mein Kampf he tells it like it is too :lol: gary67 (56)
1282415 2012-06-19 02:01:00 Say whatever you like. He is racist and anti-Chinese.

Is he?? (I doubt it)
or does he just know how to pander to the racist & rednecks. He knows what his voters want to hear
1101 (13337)
1282416 2012-06-19 05:33:00 I am an immigrant and I agree with Winston (jeez, I never thought I'd say that). So the Govt is asking New Zealanders that have already paid decades of taxes to support those on the benefit system to work longer and pay taxes for longer in order to support (some) immigrants that come here to retire knowing very well that they could not have done the same in their countries of birth - India and China come to mind as we do not have a reciprocal agreement with them.

I tell you the full story of the pension, and believe me I KNOW. The 10 years residency in order to qualify for NS is but a requirement, and if the person asking for NS does not meet that requirement then they get granted the Emergency Benefit until they do. It's crazy.

Gotta love the Aussies and their no-nonsense approach to these things.
Sanco (683)
1282417 2012-06-19 06:11:00 Wine box fiasco ! not racist was it ?.

Winston delves into things more than most and tries to keep people on the straight and narrow, not that I vote for his party.

Lurking.
Lurking (218)
1282418 2012-06-19 09:20:00 Winston is a very valuable member of Parliament. He asks the questions that others are too biased or PC to do.
If he became Prime Minister we would need another Winston to keep him in line.
mzee (3324)
1282419 2012-06-19 09:40:00 Winston is a very valuable member of Parliament. He asks the questions that others are too biased or PC to do.
If he became Prime Minister we would need another Winston to keep him in line.
It used to be fun to watch Parliament on TV when Rodney Hide and Winston Peters were there together. There was always heated debate between that pair. There was a lady speaker who kept order like a strict school ma'am.
Bobh (5192)
1282420 2012-06-19 12:40:00 Say whatever you like. He is racist and anti-Chinese.
That is pathetic he is just not PC enough for you.
mikebartnz (21)
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