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Thread ID: 22082	2002-07-11 08:06:00	Gforce 4 - help me choose which one	mum in learning (742)	Press F1

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61621	2002-07-11 23:59:00	Tut tut tut, it takes a mum to understand another mum... (need a "roll-eyes" emoticon again) mum in learning said in her original post that the prices quoted "Incl gst and installed." So of course everyone can get cheaper prices than that. The shop is probably stinging her half the cost of the board for installation. Maybe someone could post instructions here, or point her in the direction for instructions, for her to do it herself then she could get the fantastic prices you're all quoting and have plenty left for the crowbar. ;-) If she's prepared to sacrifice her remaining six months' warranty, that is. If there is any warranty left after installing the CD writer, that is.	Susan B (19)
61622	2002-07-12 00:17:00	True - MinL may well be happy to pay more for the peace of mind of having the installation done . Still, if she really is "in learning" then dropping the new video card in is a good place to start . . .	Biggles (121)
61623	2002-07-12 00:25:00	www.nvidia.com has installation instructions in 2D and 3D views. B-) -- Hervard	Hervard (405)
61624	2002-07-12 05:42:00	I just luv this place . Got in from work 5 mins ago, turn on the box (this one) and 11 more replys to my question . Awesome . We novices can learn heaps just by listening to the banter about questions asked . Well said Susan B . Will check out the post below yours, if it ain't too difficult, will give it a go . Please be aware, that in lil old Gisborne, the choice is very limited as to computer shops, or techies . Once again guys and gals, thanks for your help . Cheers from wet Gissy . Berys	mum in learning (742)
61625	2002-07-12 09:33:00	> don't count on it . according to one of the press > releases (montys news had it long time back) the > minimum will be a gf3 . i think its due to the game > useing the extra parts of the gpu (tranform & > lightning??) that the g4mx dosn't have . > > i'll see if i can dig out the press release on it . > umm the MX440 will still be able to play it . Just not to the full effect . You can also with softare *emulate* those functions as well . ;)	-=JM=- (16)
61626	2002-07-12 10:05:00	mmmmm.....strange ...when the g4 was launched id commented that gamers should not buy the mx series because it won't play q4/doom3. i'll have to find the post with it in(major search job).	tweak'e (174)
61627	2002-07-12 11:28:00	posted by tweak'e on Feb 13, 2002 10:00 PM id Software lead programmer John Carmack has posted a .plan www.bluesnews.com 3659 update for Doom 3 where he discusses 3D acceleration of the new Doom game on ATI Radeon and NVIDIA GeForce boards. The most interesting part of the whole update is this final comment listed below: On the topic of current Nvidia cards: Do not buy a GeForce4-MX for Doom. Nvidia has really made a mess of the naming conventions here. I always thought it was bad enough that GF2 was just a speed bumped GF1, while GF3 had significant architectural improvements over GF2. I expected GF4 to be the speed bumped GF3, but calling the NV17 GF4-MX really sucks. GF4-MX will still run Doom properly, but it will be using the NV10 codepath with only two texture units and no vertex shaders. A GF3 or 8500 will be much better performers. The GF4-MX may still be the card of choice for many people depending on pricing, especially considering that many games won't use four textures and vertex programs, but damn, I wish they had named it something else. As usual, there will be better cards available from both Nvidia and ATI by the time we ship the game	-=JM=- (16)
61628	2002-07-12 12:12:00	ok you may slap me silly wuth a wet fish but you must grease me first ]:):^O:^O:^O	tweak'e (174)
61629	2002-07-12 12:15:00	>Do not buy a GeForce4-MX for Doom (and quake4) or any decent next gen game ;-) note- fish must not be frozen.	tweak'e (174)
61630	2002-07-12 12:29:00	> ok you may slap me silly wuth a wet fish but you must > grease me first ]:):^O:^O:^O it would appear as if I've proven you wrong :) though I most certainly would not recommend it for doomIII.	-=JM=- (16)
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