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63948 2002-07-21 02:45:00 > I believe Xtra should be commended for this.
>

I want to believe!

> You are heavily subsidised in your activity now. It
> should be non p2p users complaining


I use about 900MB of my monthly 5GB cap, yet I am crippled by 2Kb/s downloads, on a 128Kb/s line. Paying ~$100 per month for that? Doesn't sound fair to me.

The promised improvement by putting in the 5GB cap has failed to eventuate. The majority of of files I wish to exchange are GPL and classical music. I was once grumbling about subsidising heavy users leaching, but now realise Xtra have only 'fixed' port 80 now the 5GB cap has come in. Xtra don't see the internet being anything other than e-mail and web browsing. I simply want an IP address and and not to have my e-mail and IP traffic fiddled with.

Is that really so unreasonable?
BIFF (1)
63949 2002-07-21 02:57:00 Hi Biff,

I wouldn't say that scanning emails for viruses, and then notifying if one is found is "fiddling" with your email traffic.

I would say that it was of vital importance, and that Telecom should be commended.

The p2p issue is totally seperate

Regards, BALDY
Baldy (26)
63950 2002-07-21 03:18:00 I simply want an IP address and and not to
> have my e-mail and IP traffic fiddled with .
>
> Is that really so unreasonable?


Look at it this way . You want to use the highway that is funded by the "normal" traffic .

But you want to run a delivery service between your gate and one other and want to have a continuous stream of traffic . . . but you only want to pay what the other users do, the ones that may make one journey per day to varying destinations .

It was on the basis of these diverse users that the road was built, and their traffic patterns have determined the charges . Now the road isn't wide enough and more lanes have to be added for your delivery service but we all pay .

In the world of transport however, we have some levelling agents such as road tax and speed of heavy vehicles, else we wouldnt have room for the cars .

In data transfer we have caps and speed restrictions on certain transfers .

I too seldom break 1 GB on e-mail and general business use, with high diversity . Usually full 16 mB/s speed on Jetstart .

I understand your usage and needs . You could use upload/download from servers if its kosher, and get full speed . If others would co-operate .
godfather (25)
63951 2002-07-21 04:05:00 Xtra get heaps of crap thrown at them. Just for once let's give them a Bouquet instead of a Brickbat, Eh?? Thankyou Telecom Xtra. Pleased Poppa John :D :D Poppa John (284)
63952 2002-07-21 05:12:00 When did Xtra start advising about virus infected messages? about 3 days ago after getting the 168kb "Internet Security Advice" message purporting to come from Microsoft for the 5th time I installed Mailwasher and bounced it back. Be interested to see if this is still getting through their latest system. FrankS (257)
63953 2002-07-21 05:14:00 I got informed by Xtra this morning via e-mail. Sam H (525)
63954 2002-07-21 06:00:00 Hi Frank,
According to the email I got this morning from Xtra, the new virus scanner will crank in on Tuesday 23rd July

BALDY
Baldy (26)
63955 2002-07-22 12:26:00 Didn't someone suggest this on the old F1 a few months ago and he got rubbished

Cheers From Eric
E.ric (351)
63956 2002-07-22 13:50:00 This is a first . . xtra are doing something i approve of . . . now those who don't want to subsidize this, can leave as soon as the xtra price increase comes, if it does .
The reason i am particularly pleased xtra are doing this is because xtra get most of their client base from the "free" CD that the nice man at the computer shop gives the customer who knows Jack about their first computer . They've heard of virus's, but often don't know that they apply to all users, or they think that if they have an AV prog they'll be OK . Ask these innocent newbies when they updated their virus definitions, and their eyes will go blank .
This makes xtra customers a classic breeding ground for viri, and a breeding ground that is about to be nipped in the bud . I am pleased . Just about everytime i have received KLEZ, it has come from an xtra customer, and yes i know how to trace it properly . I wouldn't touch xtra with a ten foot stick as far as ISP's go, but i am very glad of this enhancement to the system .


Godfather,
Telecom bragged that the cable they put in linking the our country to the North Island was "big enough to give separate live video feeds" to all of us Mainlanders . Telstra have matched it, and then inherited Clears cables as well . This is only a small part of the backbone thesse islands have . The cabling running around the sides, and through the middle of the North Island makes the links between islands look like childsplay . We can support p2p applications, with ease . It's just telecom choose not to . The traffic on our information superhighways barely touches the sides .
Chris Wilson (431)
63957 2002-07-22 20:05:00 Chris, the bandwidth is there, but you must realise in some cases is not owned by Telecom or Clear, but by independent operators who are not Telecos
Teleco's pay for bandwidth, so opening the taps would cost us all I guess, how do you limit it?

Why should I knowingly pay more to allow something I have no interest in or get no advantage from?
godfather (25)
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