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64273 2002-07-23 00:14:00 I won't lower myself so far as to reply to that statement Poppa John. Craig Bellhouse (493)
64274 2002-07-23 00:42:00 hi chris

just wondering whats so bad with ultra? for us in the wop wops theres not much choice :(
tweak'e (174)
64275 2002-07-23 02:11:00 Hi tweak'e

Do u have Ultra?
What do you think of it?
cheers
fergie (424)
64276 2002-07-23 02:50:00 i have had it but i can't install it on this house :(

nice high speed downloads but cost is not cheap. for the speed the cost is better than jetstream but they don't have a cheap option like jetstart.

you can have problems with local sites as all data is sent overseas before being transmitted to u via satelite. some sites will not do high speed international traffic.

more often than not the bottlenecks are the sites so a good downloading app and plenty of mirror sites helps a lot.

the satelite cards are not friendly to poor drivers and buggy hardware (eg via super socket 7 chipsets and some dos audio drivers)

it still relies on the modem to send data so you will need to tweek out the modem as much as possible. the catch 22 is that high speed downloading still requires a resonable upload speed so if you have very slow modem connection it often pays to slow the sat down down and gain better modem speed. sounds werid i know but a some tweaking and testing to give the best result is needed. for eg the sat can do 500kB/s but if you don't get that and modem keeps getting dropped offline you can tweak the settings to slow it down to say 200kB/s and you will find the modem stays online better.]

not sur if they have the XP drivers yet but the win2k ones work on XP(with a few minor flaws).

win95 is not supported and i would recommend you have a decent speed machine (prefer hardware modem) and large amounts of ram.

overall its not to bad.the big downside is slow uploads.

the new vpn setup means you can keep your existing internet provider(i don't like ihugs acc's) jetstart would be better but we are still waiting for telecom (we've been on 'its coming soon' for years).
tweak'e (174)
64277 2002-07-23 03:50:00 tweak'e,

The fact that there is little other choice scares me .

Ok, heres my experiances with ihug-ultra . First i was on dial-up with ihug in central chch, i did that sinse my first computer, several years ago now . That was fine, not lightning fast, but reliable, and it did all i could realisticly expect from dial-up . Then i got "ultra", this was simply the worst move i have ever made, yeah it was fine if all i wanted to do was download heaps, but the moment i sent a email, or started a file sharing prog, the whole thing would grind down to something appalingly slow . download speed would grind down to snail s-l-o-w as well . Being a determand creature, i continued on regardless, and managed to find 7 gig to pull in over one billing month . The damage for this on the ihug bill alone was $177 . 00 When i got this bill, i took the satalite card out, sent it to auckland, got billed for another 2 months anyway because the contract said 2 months notice was required .

$177+dedicated phone line for the upload path=$200/month .
I am now paying $107/month for 2 speech lines, plus a 128k/sec cable that is completely seperate from this . Going from ultra to cable has taken my total internet/telco bill from $260 down to $107/month

telstras 128k/sec in practice is definatly faster than ihugs 256k/sec I was allocated 256/sec because i was able to receive data transmiited from the Sugarloaf tower on the port hills overlooking CHCH .

ALL of ihugs data counted at international price, even if transmitted from CHCH, skytower, or whatever and sourced locally . Currently, like most of us on fast connections i am allocated up to 10gig of international data, local traffic counts at one tenth of that, ie:10 gig of local counts as 1 gig against my quota, and anything direct from any of the paradise servers be it file servers, mail or news servers is free . I usually move about 15g/month, but with this formula i stay well within my 10 gig quota .

I also found that the satalite and modem cards slowed my machine down, it was at the time a 450meg with 64 meg of ram . Now that it simply has a NIC card connecting it to a cable modem, it has a tad more grunt
Chris Wilson (431)
64278 2002-07-23 04:15:00 the terrestial is a little different to satelite, don't confuse the two. i can't comment on speed of terrestial but sat i've had over 500kB/s (10Mb roughly) and have heard of people hitting as high as 900kB/s.

>or started a file sharing prog, the whole thing would grind down to something appalingly slow

what sort of system and os where u running? sounds like the mtu was set on auto.

the pricing of high speed internet is really high in NZ and if you go over the capps......even with jetstream it will cost you big.
tweak'e (174)
64279 2002-07-23 04:27:00 tweak'e
i worked in a place were we ran our LAn from a satalite-ihug connection.. it was great.. really great. That was before data caps/charges and we abused it entirely. At 4:00am it would take seconds to download several megs worth of any given program.

Granted, it works better from the satalite, but the high bills we get now put me right off any flavour of ultra.

MTU???? don't know, ihugs help desk was of no help, and it is of little concern now to me, as ultra has been gone from my home for over a year now
i was running the slow 4 year old system decribed above with win98.
it's the same machine i use now, except i have 256meg of RAM in it
Chris Wilson (431)
64280 2002-07-23 05:04:00 chris-

450meg? which cpu are you running?

with 98 (w2k i'm not sur) if you don't alter the mtu settings it will auto change from lan speed ~500k to ~7k when ever the modem sends any info ie ultr goes from 500 to 7 every time the modem sends.....joy ;-) one thing to watch with home networks.

yea $20 for 500 meg i think it is now.......ouch!
tweak'e (174)
64281 2002-07-23 05:36:00 tweak'e
it's a 450 meg socket 7 AMD CPU thingy
Chris Wilson (431)
64282 2002-07-23 05:49:00 that explains it. you have a super socket 7. most comman chipset is made by via.

>the satelite cards are not friendly to poor drivers and buggy hardware (eg via super socket 7 chipsets and some dos audio drivers)


it should never have been installed.
tweak'e (174)
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