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Thread ID: 22940	2002-08-03 12:00:00	PC World HP ads	Craig Bellhouse (493)	Press F1

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
67875	2002-08-06 02:20:00	The HP ads are a probelm - enough said. I totally agree about not pissing off the customer. I'm trying to find a solution tot he problem so please bare with us. Can most of you confirm that it is just Opera that it is crashing?	Biggles (121)
67876	2002-08-06 02:37:00	>I doubt VERY much whether any of you would be willing to PAY to come >here. I would pay to ask a Question. :D if I had to. This site is a great site, And I would try to do everything I could to keep it going if it were going to close due to cash problems.	NathanTheKind (472)
67877	2002-08-06 02:38:00	Hi Bruce, Yes, I am running Opera and the ads mentioned have crashed Opera on several occasions. Thanks for your efforts to find a solution. This is a great site and I appreciate all that is being done to improve our (the users) lot. Keep up the good work team. From one of the many satisfied users....regards Smurf	Smurf (506)
67878	2002-08-06 03:25:00	Put's hand up Yea, it seems to be a largely Opera problem. I have disabled Java in Multimedia Options (Preferences), the HP ads don't display any more (yay) but the rest of the ads display fine. Good on ya Bruce for fixing someone else's problem! (Should be Opera no?)	Elwin Way (229)
67879	2002-08-06 03:26:00	I have noticed that other software crashes from time to time. ;-)Not just browsers. Often it is because inputs do not conform to what the software is intended to handle. Have you ever noticed that there are standards in the computing industry? Various companies have tried to take over standrads, and "improve" them. There is a standard Java. There is a standard for HTML. Various companies have "improved" the standards. That's called incompatibility. Or worse. If that ad works on IE and crashes Opera -- send a bug report to Opera. They want to be able to handle such things. They don't want Opera crashing either. If you don't like advertisements, join the club. But stop whinging. I don't watch television. I don't listen to commercial radio. I manage to read a newspaper or magazine and flick past advertisements (though I often do look at advertisements in computer magazines). As a rule, I "don't see" the advertisements here. If there is something like this HP ad, it's off the top of the screen about a second after I log in, and doesn't bother me. It's quite clever. But I don't sit watching it then complain about it.	Graham L (2)
67880	2002-08-06 03:46:00	What are you compaining about then? :p	Elwin Way (229)
67881	2002-08-06 04:28:00	I am complaining about the quantity of :_| WAAAH! :_| I hate it! :_| You broke my computer :_| It's not fair :_| we are seeing from silly, spoiled, little brats.	Graham L (2)
67882	2002-08-06 04:48:00	..looks around... Uh, where? The person to make the most posts about the Ads issue is probably me. The point is, the HP ads were causing grief to Java in Opera. People noticed it happened only at PF1. So people wondered why. That's all. :|	Elwin Way (229)
67883	2002-08-06 05:30:00	>The point is, the HP ads were causing grief to Java in Opera . People noticed it happened only at PF1 . Hmmm - that's a point . The same ad is running elsewhere on our sites, PCW included . Those of you who get the crash on F1, can you actually see the ad (i . e . no crash) on the main PC World site?	Biggles (121)
67884	2002-08-06 06:34:00	I've tried a bit and I can't even get the ad to begin to load in Opera, let alone crash it. It's displaying in IE but won't even do anything in Opera.	-=JM=- (16)
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