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Thread ID: 125415	2012-06-26 22:37:00	More Racism and Separatism:	B.M. (505)	PC World Chat

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1284102	2012-06-26 22:37:00	“The possible legal challenges are an urgent Waitangi Tribunal hearing in July dealing with claims by the Maori Council and others, and from Central North Island iwi Ngati Tuwharetoa which has claims over the lakes and rivers used by Mighty River and Genesis. Finance Minister Bill English would not rule out putting shares aside to use in a settlement which was likely to happen after the asset sales process. But Mr Key said it was more likely Ngati Tuwharetoa would receive cash to buy shares or the Government itself would buy shares on the open market to give to the iwi”. HERE (www.nzherald.co.nz)	B.M. (505)
1284103	2012-06-26 23:17:00	I have ask was this a conscience vote or not? It does appear that it was a party vote. If it was a conscience vote then the outcome may have been different. I do think that National are doing themselves a lot of harm.	Bobh (5192)
1284104	2012-06-27 00:32:00	Not sure how Maori expect to have ownership of the lakes and rivers....just yet more hand out fodder if you ask me	SolMiester (139)
1284105	2012-06-27 01:13:00	It's been an interesting debacle. I don't and have never been a National supporter. They did campaign on asset sales at the last election, they did get a majority and now everyone is up in arms. Like hello were you all asleep at the election it's way too late to stop asset sales now. Maori always said they don't support asset sales but if it went ahead they would be back cap in hand so nothing new there either. Maori history says that when the canoes arrived there was already a race of pale skinned people here and yet they claim indigenous rights, go figure someone's telling porkies	gary67 (56)
1284106	2012-06-27 01:31:00	It's BS if you ask me .... They're milking the handouts for all they're worth! Hate to say it but it's one thing I actually agree with Winston Peters on (Even though he's still a jackass if you ask me)...	Chilling_Silence (9)
1284107	2012-06-27 02:00:00	I don't get the Maori can even claim to own the rivers. A letter to the press a while ago highlighted it. It said something like The water in NZ rivers comes through rain. Water from other countries evapourates and air currents push it towards NZ, where it comes back down as rain. The letter was better written but the point is the same - how the hell can the Maori claim to own it.	Nick G (16709)
1284108	2012-06-27 02:01:00	It's BS if you ask me .... They're milking the handouts for all they're worth! Hate to say it but it's one thing I actually agree with Winston Peters on (Even though he's still a jackass if you ask me)... Yep, he's a jackass. I agree with him on that and immigration.	Nick G (16709)
1284109	2012-06-27 02:27:00	It's been an interesting debacle. I don't and have never been a National supporter. They did campaign on asset sales at the last election, they did get a majority and now everyone is up in arms. Like hello were you all asleep at the election it's way too late to stop asset sales now. Maori always said they don't support asset sales but if it went ahead they would be back cap in hand so nothing new there either. Maori history says that when the canoes arrived there was already a race of pale skinned people here and yet they claim indigenous rights, go figure someone's telling porkies Let me try and explain what happened Gary. Firstly, over 1 million eligible voters (26%), like myself, didn’t vote. HERE (www.nzherald.co.nz) Why? Because as I’ve said before It was like voting for which form of Cancer you’d prefer to die from. In short, the standard of Political Party & Politician was so poor we couldn’t bring ourselves to support any. So, when it came to Asset Sales, National had by no means a majority or mandate to push ahead. Indeed, they had to rely on the ACT party and United Future party with one vote each to get the Bill through the House. ACT and John Banks were predictable, especially after the Key & Banks tea party, but that still meant they needed United Future’s vote from Peter Dunne. In the end Peter Dunne forsook his principles in favour of political expedience and voted with the government. This meant that the whole matter was decided by a politician belonging to a Party with 0.6% of the votes, (just 13,443 in total), and I’ll bet a big proportion of them didn’t support their Leader on this one. :lol: I figure he will have sealed his own fate now and that of the United Future Party as well. ;) Oh the irony of the Party name. :lol:	B.M. (505)
1284110	2012-06-27 03:10:00	It's BS if you ask me .... They're milking the handouts for all they're worth! Hate to say it but it's one thing I actually agree with Winston Peters on (Even though he's still a jackass if you ask me)... +1 EDIT: I didnt vote as there was no one worth voting for. I believe i had my say.	Gobe1 (6290)
1284111	2012-06-27 07:48:00	I voted for National because I am a businessman. Business people don't vote or shouldnt vote for the commy labor and green party. Although I getting very jittery how close the National government is getting with the moaris party.	prefect (6291)
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