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| Thread ID: 125415 | 2012-06-26 22:37:00 | More Racism and Separatism: | B.M. (505) | PC World Chat |
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| 1284162 | 2012-06-30 08:32:00 | Twelvevolts, actually, I dont think this forum is a platform for racist viewpoints as you suggest, I think it does a good job at allowing freedom of speech and open discussion on all levels which is commendable. I have seen posts deleted by mods who consider them 'racist' comments and bannings and I have no doubt Chill would shut a thread down or pull it into line in a heartbeat if he considered it stepped over the line. I dont think anyone here will deny injustices in the past and that they have got to be addressed and settled. The price the country has to pay (and ongoing payment) for the settlement is what needs to be debated. I dont think the majority of Governments do support it, but they have little choice in this day and age and are to scared to stand against it. And the majority of those people who vote them in, have little say about it also when all the political parties have to suck up to Maoridom. Why is it that when anyone here has a different view than yours you have to abuse them by calling them racist, extremists, red necks etc, why cant you accept and respect there are people who have different thoughts to your own. |
Iantech (16386) | ||
| 1284163 | 2012-06-30 08:47:00 | but then get incredibly upset when someone returns the favour and calls you Pakeha. You were doing quite well until you put that as I couldn't care a less what someone calls me as long as it isn't late for breakfast so it shows me you are a total prat. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1284164 | 2012-06-30 08:50:00 | Twelvevolts, actually, I dont think this forum is a platform for racist viewpoints as you suggest, I think it does a good job at allowing freedom of speech and open discussion on all levels which is commendable. I have seen posts deleted by mods who consider them 'racist' comments and bannings and I have no doubt Chill would shut a thread down or pull it into line in a heartbeat if he considered it stepped over the line. I dont think anyone here will deny injustices in the past and that they have got to be addressed and settled. The price the country has to pay (and ongoing payment) for the settlement is what needs to be debated. I dont think the majority of Governments do support it, but they have little choice in this day and age and are to scared to stand against it. And the majority of those people who vote them in, have little say about it also when all the political parties have to suck up to Maoridom. Why is it that when anyone here has a different view than yours you have to abuse them by calling them racist, extremists, red necks etc, why cant you accept and respect there are people who have different thoughts to your own. Well said.:thumbs: |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1284165 | 2012-06-30 08:51:00 | You'd have to be blind to see that this forum is used as a platform for racist viewpoints. You got that right.:lol::lol: |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1284166 | 2012-06-30 09:02:00 | Twelvevolts, actually, I dont think this forum is a platform for racist viewpoints as you suggest, I think it does a good job at allowing freedom of speech and open discussion on all levels which is commendable.It is not my imagination that there has been an increase in threads that bleat on about Maori in general or the Treaty of Waitangi. There is a small group of members who use this forum as their personal soapbox for this particular topic. While I am all for open and broad discussions, there is a difference between debate and constant regurgitation. For example, in the last 3 months B.M. has created 17 threads - 10 of these have been about Maori or the Treaty of Waitangi and 5 of those in just this month. It has been pointed out that this gives the forum a 'taint', which is a bit sad. Open and varied discussion yes, single topic droning on and on, no. Give it a break please. |
Jen (38) | ||
| 1284167 | 2012-06-30 09:49:00 | :thumbs: Thanks Jen. |
martynz (5445) | ||
| 1284168 | 2012-06-30 10:49:00 | I have seen posts deleted by mods who consider them 'racist' comments and bannings and I have no doubt Chill would shut a thread down or pull it into line in a heartbeat if he considered it stepped over the line. Wait what? Who? Where?! An opportunity to swing the banhammer?! Count me in!! :D |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1284169 | 2012-06-30 13:53:00 | It is not my imagination that there has been an increase in threads that bleat on about Maori in general or the Treaty of Waitangi. There is a small group of members who use this forum as their personal soapbox for this particular topic. While I am all for open and broad discussions, there is a difference between debate and constant regurgitation. For example, in the last 3 months B.M. has created 17 threads - 10 of these have been about Maori or the Treaty of Waitangi and 5 of those in just this month. It has been pointed out that this gives the forum a 'taint', which is a bit sad. Open and varied discussion yes, single topic droning on and on, no. Give it a break please.I hear you. Maybe the increase in threads are due to the increase in media attention to what is going on between Maori and the Govt. and how it is effecting New Zealanders as a whole. If B.M. didnt start it, someone else will bring it to the attention of the board. If there is a common element who follow and comment on such threads then surely discussion is a healthy means to get it off their chest rather than have it suppressed by force. Hopefully that discussion will also lead to education and tolerance on such issues as I have found threads like these have led to some interesting links and pointed out some interesting historical facts and statistics. As common New Zealanders become more and more oppressed for not being Maori and continuously having Maori views and culture rammed up their backsides, I guess there is only going to be more discussion on it, including some ranting and raving no doubt. Over the time I have been on this forum, while discussions about Maori seem to have generated more threads, probably the worst and most abusive comments I have seen are about the 'Yanks' and 'Poms' by some (some other harsh comments such as about the Syrian Leader and the Sunni and Shiite people also come to mind). If this discussion board is being 'tainted' by discussing Maori it is indeed sad. I respect the view of those that clearly think any discussion about Maori is racist and for anyone to make any comment about Maori must be a racist, red neck, bigot, etc etc, although I disagree and have seen very little, if any, "hate" towards Maori or out-right racist comments here (and I for one would be reporting a post if I saw it that way). In fact the worst racism I have seen on the net and heard in the media have generally been made by Maori towards white New Zealanders (which it seems is ok to get away with). All I can repeat is well done this board to date for allowing freedom of speech and open healthy discussion and well done to the Moderators who respect and allow others to express their points of view that may differ to their own personal or political views, and in most cases look at them cautiously with an open eye and educated view point and not just slam them closed without as much as a comment. My opinion only. |
Iantech (16386) | ||
| 1284170 | 2012-06-30 22:40:00 | You'd have to be blind to see that this forum is used for racist viewpoints You got that right.:lol::lol: @Mikebartnz +1, so true :lol: |
Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1284171 | 2012-06-30 23:25:00 | You were doing quite well until you put that as I couldn't care a less what someone calls me as long as it isn't late for breakfast so it shows me you are a total prat. ooooohhh - touchy | Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
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