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Thread ID: 125415	2012-06-26 22:37:00	More Racism and Separatism:	B.M. (505)	PC World Chat

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1284142	2012-06-29 20:57:00	I still think there is an earlier history than what we currently know (or are being made aware of) in NZ. HERE (www.celticnz.co.nz) maybe? WAIPOUA FOREST STRUCTURES. "The following photos of dilapidated structures were taken on 11th November 2000. These are a few examples of registered structures, designated as purpose built by archaeologists, which were mapped by position, described and recorded for posterity. The information derived was considered so sensitive that it was then labelled "restricted" and not to be viewed by the general public until the year 2063". Why the embargo????????? :confused:	B.M. (505)
1284143	2012-06-29 22:02:00	read to the ends of the earth, did the Greeks come to NZ before the Maori by Maxwell C Hill I'm not saying they did is evidence they might have	gary67 (56)
1284144	2012-06-29 22:10:00	HERE (www.celticnz.co.nz) maybe? WAIPOUA FOREST STRUCTURES. "The following photos of dilapidated structures were taken on 11th November 2000. These are a few examples of registered structures, designated as purpose built by archaeologists, which were mapped by position, described and recorded for posterity. The information derived was considered so sensitive that it was then labelled "restricted" and not to be viewed by the general public until the year 2063". Why the embargo????????? :confused: What a pile of rocks that would have taken a few hours to assemble is proof of a higher civilization? I have seen these so embargoed my ass.	prefect (6291)
1284145	2012-06-29 22:57:00	While I partly agree, you have to wonder when the line will be drawn in the sand and the Govt will just say "Enough is enough.". Remembering that it's a two-way street, we brought more than just gunpowder to the Maoris. Show me them still living in huts and maraes without using our "21st century electricity" and medical care and the likes? I don't see them giving us that back... Typical racist BS - and you're supposed to be a moderator.	Twelvevolts (5457)
1284146	2012-06-29 22:58:00	Exactly, but some on here think you should support these cretins by voting for them or loose your right to complain about them. No you still pretty much do lose your right to complain. These so-called "unprincipled politicos" are going to get in either way, but in the instance of this election specifically you had two choices: 1) Vote National to sell off your assets 2) Vote Labour / Greens to not Country voted National, assets are going to be sold. You don't like it, tough luck, because you didn't vote for Labour / Greens, you're now responsible through your lack of action, when you could have made a difference. You chose apathy, you've made your bed, now you lie in it.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1284147	2012-06-29 22:58:00	Typical racist BS - and you're supposed to be a moderator. You're saying they had electricity before settlers arrived?	Chilling_Silence (9)
1284148	2012-06-29 23:21:00	Typical racist BS - and you're supposed to be a moderator. What you replied to wasn't racist at all but you like running around labelling everyone a racist.:groan: I will ask you again. Have you ever personally been invited onto a marae and by that I don't mean as part of your work.	mikebartnz (21)
1284149	2012-06-29 23:29:00	Maori would have burnt and cut down forest/scrub, but only to increase settlement/farming areas or for building etc, Wrong as large areas of bush were burnt to chase out the Moa. In actual fact the Maori eleminated as much bush as the early settlers and both sides often had fires which got out of control.	mikebartnz (21)
1284150	2012-06-29 23:35:00	I must say; there are a lot of whingers, racists, and experts in this forum. Often they are the same person. I did have to laugh at the irony of one of these experts on Maori who has this as his signature: "The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else." Regards the indigenous pale-skin that were here before the Maori... how do you know these pale-skins were not Maori? Were you around? Can you verify that the original people were not Maori. As mentioned already; if one were to actually take the time and look at the differences within "Maori", you might notice that Ngapuhi are a lot darker skinned than Ngai Tahu. What's not to say that Ngai Tahu were here already; and Ngapuhi came in after? But, I wasn't there. This is pure speculation. There are others in this forum who were here at that time so know all the facts. Those who also know all the facts are also aware that non-Maori people are not know for their war-mongering among tribes/nations. The Holy Crusades, the Holocaust, the assimilation of the Native American indians, aborigines, Maori were not as a result of a pale-skinned people. Maori are the only "tribe" known for rape/pillage/death within the "civilized" time of colonization. And the non-bleaters (aka non-voters) among us know that if they had had their say come election time, National would not have been voted in, MMP would have been overturned, and Peter Dunne would not be a hero. Cest la vie... (oops, is that a european term? I dare not use a non-euro term in a forum full of non-racist experts)	Myth (110)
1284151	2012-06-30 00:35:00	Wrong as large areas of bush were burnt to chase out the Moa. In actual fact the Maori eleminated as much bush as the early settlers and both sides often had fires which got out of control. +1. In fact, the Maori cleared even more bush than the settlers did. They built their Pa on top of a hill, the cleared all the nearby bush so attackers couldn't hide in it. There were a lot of Pa's, and so a lot of the bush was cleared by the Maori. And their talk about protecting native birds is also BS. They didn't care about keeping a viable population of animals and birds. They bought rats, pigs, dogs et all with them, which greatly harmed some species, and hunted others to extinction (the Moa being a fine example).	Nick G (16709)
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