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Thread ID: 127475 2012-10-24 21:05:00 VPS Hosting - Webslice vs Webtastix WarNox (8772) Press F1
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1308540 2012-10-28 20:28:00 usually with NZ based hosting your looking somewhere around a max of 20ms latency (depending on ISP of course), whereas if you host in US your looking around 80ms if not higher

Even on fibre the difference is clear

Fibre:


Pinging US:
Pinging ns10.webtastix.co.nz [206.217.223.158] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 206.217.223.158: bytes=32 time=179ms TTL=49
Reply from 206.217.223.158: bytes=32 time=178ms TTL=49

Pinging NZ
Pinging ns10.webtastix.net [202.89.49.68] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 202.89.49.68: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=55


ADSL:


US
Pinging ns10.webtastix.co.nz [206.217.223.158] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 206.217.223.158: bytes=32 time=164ms TTL=51
Reply from 206.217.223.158: bytes=32 time=160ms TTL=51
Reply from 206.217.223.158: bytes=32 time=160ms TTL=51
Reply from 206.217.223.158: bytes=32 time=160ms TTL=51

NZ
Pinging ns10.webtastix.net [202.89.49.68] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 202.89.49.68: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=59
Reply from 202.89.49.68: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=59
Reply from 202.89.49.68: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=59
Reply from 202.89.49.68: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=59
askewdread (16925)
1308541 2012-10-28 21:33:00 Indeed, latency to URPad (Da TX) is around 200ms (direct connection from NZ) there is an overhead of 100ms from NZ to australia (when behind TSZ Proxy, making it about 300ms) so for me using the SSH server to forward an internet connection connecting to NZ --> AUS --> NZ --> US Hosted website --> NZ --> AUS --> NZ added a lot of latency. Having a server in NZ wasn't much of a benefit to us in our situation.

This is only a problem because we are behind a really bad proxy run by telecom schoolzone (SINA) and we are on a 2mbit DSL line, when that's shared by 100+ boarders after hours and about 400 students and staff during the day it's diabolical so any server for us was not really going to be optimal. We chose URPad based on the fact it was cheap (students love cheap) and it didn't really matter how bad the connection was because we'd be wasting our money paying for a good connection when we can't really make use of it.

If I was actually hosting material that mattered to us or if she school had gotten fibre (everythings installed but there is no contract for an ISP yet) then i'd definitely use a NZ host. The benefits would be more than just latency (supporting NZ companies, better support etc) but unfortunately it didn't work out so we all sit around with our dialup broadband and watch bitvise time out every 5 mins.

Given by your commitment and support i'd definitely be looking towards Webastix in the future though.

First world problem eh :p
The Error Guy (14052)
1308542 2012-10-28 21:53:00 ah i see, that makes a bit more sense... I thought school type things had moved over to fibre now (though has been a while since i was in that situation) :) hopefully soon then, schools and similar should have happened before the houses that already have it tbh :(

Thanks for that, am always here to help if possible :)

Yeah, aren’t they always! :D
askewdread (16925)
1308543 2012-10-29 02:32:00 Well we have fibre connected (all cabling is done) and all our internal infrastructure has been upgraded but the water hasn't been turned on as such, I believe we are waiting for a contract from an ISP to provide services.

Early outlook for the service was good, they installed Ruckus routers and again we thought good, some decent hardware. It started to look bad when each router broadcasts 5 SSIDS.... One called "Rathkeale" the other "Rathkeale_Mac" "Rathkeale_Staff" "Rathkeale_Guest" and "Rathkeale_register" instantly that is bad bad bad imo, staff and student/guest seem OK to me but why they have a registration service (which we found to be vulnerable to ARP attacks) on different networks is beyond me. Dunno what the Mac one is either. I'm assuming it's for the apple computers (there's only 15-20 in the whole school).

I think there shall be some major kerfuffle and downtime when they start being used, not to mention confusion. To me 5 networks seems excessive and untidy. Should be compressed to at lease Guest, Staff and School.

In the meantime whilst we wait I will enjoy watching plaintext HTML pages load incrementally, one good thing about SSH is that using zlib makes is fractionally faster :D
The Error Guy (14052)
1308544 2012-10-29 03:08:00 Yeah seems extremely excessive :\ wonder why its setup like that...
Maybe to have a different one to use every day? Gives some variation i guess :)

Hope you get it soon, seems like a very odd and slow way to set it up
askewdread (16925)
1308545 2012-10-29 04:22:00 Early outlook for the service was good, they installed Ruckus routers and again we thought good, some decent hardware. It started to look bad when each router broadcasts 5 SSIDS.... One called "Rathkeale" the other "Rathkeale_Mac" "Rathkeale_Staff" "Rathkeale_Guest" and "Rathkeale_register" instantly that is bad bad bad imo, staff and student/guest seem OK to me but why they have a registration service (which we found to be vulnerable to ARP attacks) on different networks is beyond me. Dunno what the Mac one is either. I'm assuming it's for the apple computers (there's only 15-20 in the whole school).

Who would 'they' be referring to? I'm sure there is nothing wrong with the actual hardware (Ruckus) but the configuration if anything.
WarNox (8772)
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