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Thread ID: 125457 2012-06-30 04:26:00 Kim Dotcom SurferJoe46 (51) PC World Chat
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1284763 2012-07-02 01:48:00 You are allowed to offend them after what they did during WW11
I don't think the Japanese today are the same as the Japanese in WWII
Nick G (16709)
1284764 2012-07-02 01:58:00 The term kraut is from their fav meal saukraut that's all. If thats offensive I guess calling yanks yanks is offensive to. prefect (6291)
1284765 2012-07-02 02:09:00 The term kraut is from their fav meal saukraut that's all. If thats offensive I guess calling yanks yanks is offensive to.
Depends on if they come from the north or south.
mikebartnz (21)
1284766 2012-07-03 09:28:00 The term kraut is from their fav meal saukraut that's all . If thats offensive I guess calling yanks yanks is offensive to . It is the historic usage that is the problem, not its etymological origins, as with 'Japs' . Yanks is just an abbreviation of Yankees and whatever the South may think of that, it has been an expression of respect and friendliness for many years and I've never heard of a complaint .

'Yank' and 'Yankee' are right up there in the Oxford English dictionary as colloquialisms, while Kraut is listed as a derogatory expression, much as curry might be used in a derogatory context .

Your grip on origins and meanings is a bit too loose and I'm not so sure that Germans would not take significant offence at being called by that name . The British Royal Family is of German origins, but call them Krauts in any bar in the UK and you'd be out the door with your head rolling several metres behind you .

Billy
Billy T (70)
1284767 2012-07-03 10:19:00 I don't think the Japanese today are the same as the Japanese in WWII

They may not be exactly the same but 99%
bk T (215)
1284768 2012-07-03 10:24:00 It is the historic usage that is the problem, not its etymological origins, as with 'Japs'. Yanks is just an abbreviation of Yankees and whatever the South may think of that, it has been an expression of respect and friendliness for many years and I've never heard of a complaint.

'Yank' and 'Yankee' are right up there in the Oxford English dictionary as colloquialisms, while Kraut is listed as a derogatory expression, much as curry might be used in a derogatory context.

Your grip on origins and meanings is a bit too loose and I'm not so sure that Germans would not take significant offence at being called by that name. The British Royal Family is of German origins, but call them Krauts in any bar in the UK and you'd be out the door with your head rolling several metres behind you.

Billy

I don't think Englanders in a bar give a stuff who calls who what. Bars are the one place you can call a spade a spade, my local boozer we use terms for other ethnics that would result in a lifetime ban here and then some.
prefect (6291)
1284769 2012-07-03 10:29:00 They may not be exactly the same but 99%
Exactly if they are not truly being taught history as it really happened it shows they haven't changed that much.
mikebartnz (21)
1284770 2012-07-03 10:31:00 They may not be exactly the same but 99%
Regarding the German and Japanese the right wing cruelty and wish for more living space is simmering away at the moment but they have a lid on it. I don't trust either of them.
prefect (6291)
1284771 2012-07-03 12:05:00 He has done nothing wrong here in NZ so I still don't understand why Shonkey bent over and touched his toes for the FBI and allowed a raid to happen

Really? So its acceptable to you for a criminal to move to another country and evade prosecution?

So if he'd been involved with paedophilia in the USA but not here, you'd welcome him??

What about Nai Yin Xue? He murdered his wife in Auckland, then abandoned his daughter in a Melbourne railway station while fleeing to the USA. The Americans extradited him back to NZ where he stood trial. They must be really bad people these Americans, after all he didn't commit the murder in the USA so let the guy live in peace...?!!
Winston001 (3612)
1284772 2012-07-03 12:58:00 Since when was running a service which certain users abuse illegal. Why isn't every ISP in the world being sued for copyright infringement? Isp's make money off illegal activity everday, I say we kick down telecoms front door with an incorrect warrant, try to copy files which we actually copy because they're so damn big, arrest the CEO and call it a day?

The difference is between Kim dotcom's case and the examples mentioned above is that the US would probably deal with the situation properly and the nz government might offer to help out because they feel like being nice (not because America is sticking a half million dollar copyright law change bribe up the govt.'s arse).
icow (15313)
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