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70103 2002-08-11 02:41:00 I recently brought an Athlon XP 1700+ systems which is running Windows XP Professional, the problem is that windows thinks the processor is 1.4 Ghz, so Games that detect the systems speed always think it is 1.4. Is there anyway to change this or is this just normal with the Athlon XP processors (dud) (1442)
70104 2002-08-11 02:46:00 The AMD Athlon XP1700+ runs at a speed of 1.47GHz so maybe it is just truncating the figure. Or the processor is not running at the standard multiplier and FSB. -=JM=- (16)
70105 2002-08-11 02:47:00 But - the Athlon 1700 does run at 1.47 GHz ...not sure what your problem is, as it sounds as if its reporting correctly. Games should detect the clock speed (1.47 GHz) I would imagine

The "1700" is a fictional figure used by AMD to equate their supposed actual performance to a Pentium.
That "speed" is not the clock speed.
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70106 2002-08-11 03:01:00 Thanks for the reply, I though it must be something like that but wasnt sure (dud) (1442)
70107 2002-08-11 08:32:00 So which brand has the fastest Processor on the market at the moment? Is there, in the near future, the likelihood that processor speed will plateau out, due to the type of materials they are made of? Or is the speed still open ended? Curious Poppa John :) Poppa John (284)
70108 2002-08-11 08:40:00 At the moment Intel has the fastest processor in the way of the actual GHz the chip can do. But then there is the amount of work done per cycle and price/performance and the stuff that is just round the corner to consider.

As for it plateauing out, I think that will be quite a long way off.
-=JM=- (16)
70109 2002-08-11 08:49:00 JM. Ok so far. What is that processor? Can you please enlarge on that sentence that stats " But ............................................consid er, so I can understand the meaning? especially "the stuff around the corner?. It wasn't so long ago that a component bought in the first of one month was outdated by the first of the next month. Is it still like that?
Poppa John
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70110 2002-08-11 08:52:00 Another question which has just appeared in my low IQ brain What is it in a processor that determines its speed? Poppa John. Poppa John (284)
70111 2002-08-11 09:24:00 Currently in NZ the top two processors are
Pentium 4 2.53A Northwood Socket 478 533FSB 512K cache $1600.00 INC GST
and
ATHLON XP 2200 PLUS Socket A Retail packed with cooler and AMD Sticker $588.00 INC GST

just as an example of the prices.

There are a few things which influence the performance of a processor. Of these two above they both have a Front Side Bus (FSB) of 133MHz which is double pumped in the case of the Athlon and quadruple pumped with the P4.

Another thing is the amount of instructions per cycle that can be carried out. Of the two above the P4 has 2533 cycles per second and the Athlon has 1800 cycles per second. But it's pointless if they can't carry out a lot of instructions per cycle.

Think of a ferris wheel at the show. You can have two different ones which spin at different rates. But if the slow has 60 chairs and the faster one has 20 chairs. The amount of people that get moved could be greater on the slower one.

Also there is no great point in having the CPU doing heaps of cycles which are empty - thats why you donate your spare CPU usage to finding extraterrestrial activity or curing cancer or other similar distributed computing ideas.

As for stuff around the corner. There will be a couple of faster varieties of the current chips released. But then there will be the new CPUs which will support 64bit computing.

Also the prices of the latest and greatest chip is never all that good. After a wee while they come down in price as the faster chips come out.
-=JM=- (16)
70112 2002-08-11 09:39:00 JM OkI think I have understood things better now, thanks.
Here is another one for you. My existing HD is 5200rpm, if it were replaced with a 7200rpm, would all the other bits & bytes (pieces) cope with the RPM speed increase?
And another one. My HD is 20gb, but after being Formatted & having XP installed, stated that there was 16.2gb of free space. Of which I have, to date, used 12.8gb. Is this apparent loss of gb to be expected & is there a fixed amount of loss Or a percentage of loss depending on the size or brand of HD? (Whew, not bad from someone with an IQ of 11) Poppa John
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