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70156 2002-08-12 00:59:00 Some good articles on this last year in PC World/Imag from US-based Steve Bass:

Music soothes savage Bass (pcworld.co.nz)

Vinyl to PC (pcworld.co.nz)
Biggles (121)
70157 2002-08-12 04:37:00 Sorry Elwin, rambling too much.....

> would be interested in peoples thoughts whether buying one of
> these would be worth it. Price is right – only $150.

Its a Optimus turntable with a pre-amp from Dicks. Price is quite low so maybe quality is debatable. Wondered if you have heard of these and if the production was OK.

cheers
Parry
parry (27)
70158 2002-08-12 05:55:00 Yea, but being from Dick Smith's, I would look twice at the quality. They will do the job you're after, just make sure to balance it with decent audio editing software. I recommend Sound Forge, but it's not free. Remember you get what you pay for.

Oh, be sure to ask for a signal to noise ratio before you buy. If it's too high, it will make poor quality recordings. If they won't or can't tell you, then it's probably too high. :D
Elwin Way (229)
70159 2002-08-12 06:14:00 Thanks Bruce, Chris, Bob, robsonde, Vince, Parry, Elwin.

Elwin: I have everything but the software (don't know how good my soundcard is, though); do you know where I can get your recommended Sound Forge?

Up to what level is regarded as a good s/n ratio?

Thanks.

Orto
Orto (1448)
70160 2002-08-12 06:32:00 0 db is inaudable
120 db starts to hurt a bit
if you have a 120 db s/n ratio you are doing very well indeed!
chances are the vinyls s/n ratio wont be that good

the answer to the s/n ratio question is answered with,
what can you afford?
how fussy are you?

of course the s/n ratio will always be decided by the weakest link in the chain.
100db is pretty good really
Chris Wilson (431)
70161 2002-08-12 06:35:00 Have a look in Harvey Normans. I've seen Sound Forge there. There might be something else that is appropriate if not.

50db and higher is regarded usually as a good s/n ratio. The higher the number the better.
Elwin Way (229)
70162 2002-08-12 07:00:00 120 dB s/n good? Miraculous, I'd say.

The actual dynamic range of the various media are: shellac disc ("78s") -- 30 dB, cassette tape -- 58 dB, vinyl LP -- 60 dB, CD -- 96 dB ("advanced CD -- 120 db ), DVD -- 144 dB. But if you can hear the lowest level, you won't be able to hear at all after you've felt a level 144 DB higher than that. ;-) But since your amplifier (and speakers) can't handle megawatts, you don't acually get all the dynamic range.

The turntable and stylus noise are going to make high s/n ratios nonsense. Digitising with a sound card is going to make it worse. But it'll be listenable.

One of the Australian computer magazines has a full feature vinyl to CD programme on the cover CD this month.
Graham L (2)
70163 2002-08-12 07:18:00 Graham,
120 db miraculus????
i have a piddly little 3,100w rms sound system that does near enough to 120db s/n ratio, but yeah, plug in just about anything to the front of it and the ratio goes down, FAST.
As you point out, hiss/hum/whatever is only effensive in the gaps between a system being painfully loud, (unless one misuses compression), and therefore 120db is more than could ever really be needed.


In a domestic situation 90db s/n ratio would be B-E-A-utitiful
Chris Wilson (431)
70164 2002-08-14 11:31:00 Thanks, Elwin and everyone for the info .

It's a good job I asked; I thought less (db) was best!

Regards .

Orto
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