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Thread ID: 23442	2002-08-16 08:24:00	Advise on Purchase of 'Apple' computer	John Boy (1365)	Press F1

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71628	2002-08-16 21:46:00	hooboy.. I can feel a flame war coming on... >...the millions of people who use and love their Macs... It goes into the millions? >Take a Mac out of its box, and you experience that hand-and-glove fit from the get-go. I beg to differ. I found using a Mac the first time less intuitive than a PC. It takes much longer to achieve simple tasks on a Mac because there is no recognition between a newbie and a power user - you do things the same way no matter who you are. SiK	SoniKalien (792)
71629	2002-08-16 21:58:00	Iv'e never used a Mac but a guy I know who does says that are the best for large-scale graphics and image-editing. Apparrently it's the industry standard. From what little I know the only reason to buy a Mac is because you're real curious as to what they're like. If you just want a comp for ordinary use, get a PC. My 2c worth on a cold morning. :)	mark c (247)
71630	2002-08-17 03:09:00	IMO macs still offer a more consistent user interface (...and the flame war grows) than windows, but the difference is quite small now. As for support, my guess is you will find a mac lower maintance, because it won't run all the viruses, spyware etc that newbies seem have a lot of trouble with. If it wasn't for the cost difference (although they do use better quality hardware than most PCs) I would recommend macs to more people.	bmason (508)
71631	2002-08-17 03:27:00	For people who want a computer to do things with, rather than an "inside, wetweather" equivalent to a hot rod car, a Mac is probably a good thing . In general, any software and hardware bought to go with the Mac will work . This does not necessarily apply to the PC . apply The cost is the major drawback . I suspect anyone who has been exposed to Windows will find it hard to convert . It is different . For someone with no computer exposure, the Mac is probably easier to learn . The argument that Macs are the industry standard for graphics and print preparation is mostly irrelevant now . The professional graphics stuff was produced for the Mac because IBM was not interested in graphics, so Macs became the standard by default . Now, most of the software is available for both platforms . Sometimes it is cheaper, and available for the PC first, because of the larger market . But it is a matter of taste, and depth of pocket . And you can buy a very expensive Pc, too .	Graham L (2)
71632	2002-08-17 03:45:00	I have no problem with Apple computers. But I DO have a problem with their advertising campaign which is running at the moment and is full of absolute crap. The problem with Apples is that more people have PCs so it is harder to share stuff about. But Apples still do crash. Also Apples DON'T (or there recent ones anyway) have floppy drives. The latest MacOSx is just a BSD skin as far as I'm aware.	-=JM=- (16)
71633	2002-08-17 05:56:00	I wouldn't mind having a new Mac with OS X as long as I could keep the PC too. OS X looks quite cool, I saw a nice advert in New Scientist with a BSD command shell open. I guess you'd be able to compile existing apps to run under OS X. I think I'd buy a nice Intellipoint mouse to start with though.	BIFF (1)
71634	2002-08-17 13:25:00	Im at university, studying design. I use a Mac at uni and a PC at home. Have had no problem transfering files except sometime you have to add the extension back on to the file. There are positives and negatives to both. File sizes smaller on macs Macs dont crash. Instead they freeze (same thing) - try searching for crash on an Apple. Its nice that the arrows for the scroll bars are at the same end on macs. I would write more, but got to go	superOman (745)
71635	2002-08-17 22:15:00	I thank you for all your comments. I have passed all of them on to my relative . I have come to the conclusion it is not an open and shut case, but the cost does come into it but not by much. A PC with an LCD display is comparative in cost. My main concern is that no one else in the familky has any experience with them and could leave her on her own to sort out. I find Windows such a vast subject which many of us get into strife with.	John Boy (1365)
71636	2002-08-17 23:45:00	> I thank you for all your comments. I have passed all > of them on to my relative . I have come to the > conclusion it is not an open and shut case, but the > cost does come into it but not by much. A PC with an > LCD display is comparative in cost. My main concern > is that no one else in the familky has any experience > with them and could leave her on her own to sort out. This is ONE pretty good reason to go with a PC You say that your relative only wants it to do the basic stuff. When I brought my first PC, that is the exact criteria I had as well. Pretty soon (after I had become confident in computer use) I wanted to start downloading music, play games etc etc. With a MAC you are quite limited in what is available as "free" downloads. There are bugger all p2p music download applications, you can't get simple stuff like incredimail (which is fun for sending emails) If you want to swap files, there are a lot you can't go near. I am probably sounding like gibberish here, but unless you are doing professional graphics, in the long run I think the PC is the way to go, especially as all the rellies/ friends have the PC BALDY	Baldy (26)
71637	2002-08-19 04:19:00	> > > Take a Mac out of its box, and you experience that > hand-and-glove fit from the get-go . > > I beg to differ . I found using a Mac the first time > less intuitive than a PC . It takes much longer to > achieve simple tasks on a Mac because there is no > recognition between a newbie and a power user - you > do things the same way no matter who you are . > Heh so you consider yourself a power user do you? I used to be like so many of you - I hated macs with a passion . however OSX(pronounced ten) is just beautiful in every way - it just works (and yes its intuitive) oh and for "real power users" you have the availabilty of the underlying unix shell (which means full control over the entire system)	ctonks (746)
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