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Thread ID: 127542	2012-10-29 23:25:00	Itunes... bloat control	Tbird650 (6754)	Press F1

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1309465	2012-10-29 23:25:00	Hi I had to install itunes to get access to pics and video taken with my iphone. The laptop with the itunes install now has some programs running full time i.e. mDNSresponder and Apple Mobile device Service. I want to trim down the number of forced to run entries in the task manager so I'm pondering on how to deal with these. The laptop notices the difference as while it's a dual core, it needs to be kept clean to run optimized. Possibly switching these items to manual start in Windows services might do the trick. Has anyone had go at dealing with itunes bloat on a PC? ...I think "bonjour" is another Apple program that comes to mind. Thanks. Comments on how to deal with itunes memory control invited.	Tbird650 (6754)
1309466	2012-10-29 23:41:00	Have you gone into MSCONFIG /Start Tab and unticked the options for them to run on startup ?	wainuitech (129)
1309467	2012-10-29 23:48:00	The price for using Apple's products is you lose most / all your ability to "open the bonnet (or hood) and tweak the engine." If you were really serious, start a cmd prompt, and type net start this will give you a list of services, even ones that are not running from there, you'd create two batch files One to start the appropriate services, and another to stop 'em STARTAPPLE.BAT net start AppleService1 net start AppleService2 ENDAPPLE.BAT net stop AppleService1 net stop AppleService2 "AppleService1" and "AppleService2" dont' actually exist; there just placeholders Try Googling / experimentation to find which services Apple uses.	kingdragonfly (309)
1309468	2012-10-30 00:13:00	Have you gone into MSCONFIG /Start Tab and unticked the options for them to run on startup ? Everything there is unticked except the virus checker. (I've been using ccleaner which gives the same result I believe.) So... the itune/apple services start automatically as they're set this way on install of the itunes program/s. I suppose what I'm thinking of is setting the itunes services to manual and hoping they start up when requested by the respective launch of the itunes program.... but only when I choose to run it. Not each and every time I start the PC. I thought I'd discuss this on the forum as no doubt other have had this issue before.	Tbird650 (6754)
1309469	2012-10-30 00:14:00	As kingdragonfly advised, ITunes takes over. disable them as suggested, and see, you'll soon find out :)	wainuitech (129)
1309470	2012-10-30 00:20:00	The price for using Apple's products is you lose most / all your ability to "open the bonnet (or hood) and tweak the engine." If you were really serious, start a cmd prompt, and type net start this will give you a list of services, even ones that are not running from there, you'd create two batch files One to start the appropriate services, and another to stop 'em STARTAPPLE.BAT net start AppleService1 net start AppleService2 ENDAPPLE.BAT net stop AppleService1 net stop AppleService2 "AppleService1" and "AppleService2" dont' actually exist; there just placeholders Try Googling / experimentation to find which services Apple uses. Innovative approach to the issue! Thanks for posting. I like the "net start" command. Actually I refuse to put itunes on my main desktop due the forcible way it wants to thrust it's programs and services upon the user. and bad luck if I only use it once a month as a program. So I install it on a PC I don't use very often. Still, if I can get the software to a manual start/stop situation, I may allow it back on my main PC. Your solution might just work out! Thanks	Tbird650 (6754)
1309471	2012-10-30 00:31:00	You should be able to go fairly itunes-less now. I haven't tried it (I have itunes installed), but does the device (phone or ipod or ipad? I can't remember what you have) show up as a camera? Maybe some driver is loaded, but my phone does. That's you photos taken care of. As for videos, if you use good player, you can bypass using itunes for loading videos. Backups are to iCloud now (used to be itunes only) Music, again goodplayer will play music, but I actually use spotify premium, with that you can say I want this playlist offline, and it sucks all the tracks onto your idevice. IOS Upgrades, are OTA now. Food for thought.	psycik (12851)
1309472	2012-10-30 01:49:00	You should be able to go fairly itunes-less now. I haven't tried it (I have itunes installed), but does the device (phone or ipod or ipad? I can't remember what you have) show up as a camera? Maybe some driver is loaded, but my phone does. That's you photos taken care of. As for videos, if you use good player, you can bypass using itunes for loading videos. Backups are to iCloud now (used to be itunes only) Music, again goodplayer will play music, but I actually use spotify premium, with that you can say I want this playlist offline, and it sucks all the tracks onto your idevice. IOS Upgrades, are OTA now. Food for thought. Food for thought. ..yep. It looks as though itunes is still required. Photos can be accessed because it's as you say, the phone is seen as a camera by windows. The video is another separate annoyance entirely. I googled the GoodPlayer so will research that and see what it can do. Looks like it's for the iphone or ipad and not for a PC?? Icloud system requirements for a PC: ■Microsoft Windows 7 ■iCloud Control Panel 2.0 or later ■iTunes 10.6.3 or later (for iTunes in the Cloud and iTunes Match) ■Outlook 2007 or 2010 or iCloud.com (for Contacts and Calendar) ■Internet Explorer 9 or later (for iCloud.com and Bookmarks) or Chrome 19 or later (for iCloud.com) Elsewhere I read icloud requires 3GS and my iphone is 2G. I've been using ifunbox however itunes is required for this too. At least I can access the video I have taken via ifunbox.	Tbird650 (6754)
1309473	2012-10-30 02:32:00	Food for thought...yep. It looks as though itunes is still required. Photos can be accessed because it's as you say, the phone is seen as a camera by windows. The video is another separate annoyance entirely. I googled the GoodPlayer so will research that and see what it can do. Looks like it's for the iphone or ipad and not for a PC?? Video should be accessible on the phone as well, mine show up as .mov files when browsing the phone from a windows PC (thinking the phone is a camera). Goodplayer is an app on the iphone/ipad for playback, it allows playback on non native apple format videos (eg .avi etc) - The advantage of goodplayer is it can (from the phone) connect to a samba share, ftp server or url and download the video to the phone. As opposed to the itunes model where you sync the video to the device.	psycik (12851)
1309474	2012-10-30 02:33:00	I use MediaMonkey instead of iTunes to manage my iPod, don't know if it will work with an iPhone though, but you could always try	Agent_24 (57)
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