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1309686 2012-11-01 08:27:00 :thumbs: Couldn't agree more.

One place I look after has 7 PC's ranging from XP & W7, 1 HP server ( only 5 of the PC's can connect to the server its how they wanted it - long story) only ever hear from them when theres a problem, and 99% of the time its something silly or the printers need some maintenance work.

The server was given to them since they are a charity organisation by HP seven years ago ( roughly) its never missed a beat, never needs any work doing to it.

They were at a charity / fund raising meeting and HP were there, they got talking and the guy from HP said anything we can do to help ask -- So they asked me what would be useful, a server would be nice - suggested a few, well they called the guy back at HP, and a few weeks later, brand new shiny server turned up complete with server 2003 installed, way more powerful than what they will ever use or need :eek: I Was shocked lol
wainuitech (129)
1309687 2012-11-01 09:16:00 there were some stipulations though. Preferred the ribbon, and wanted web apps built in - over the thread, several programs were suggested, questions asked and answered in a polite manner, and MS office was the only one that could do everything asked, any other office product couldn't.
But that stipulation about the ribbon wasn't in #1 and there wasn't anything wrong with what Yorick posted in #19 but you still decided to have a go at him. I used to have one hell of a lot of respect for you until you started getting your knickers in a twist about Yorick.
I can only assume you have been sucking on MS's tit too long.
mikebartnz (21)
1309688 2012-11-01 09:40:00 Give it a rest Mike, if you read the previous posts things are fine both Yorick and myself have commented on posts and there are no problems.


I used to have one hell of a lot of respect for you until you started getting your knickers in a twist about Yorick I don't expect it, so no great lose there, your choice as to how you feel, I will say the feeling is the same back, esp since lately there has been at least one outburst that wasn't called for in another thread. pressf1.pcworld.co.nz (pressf1.pcworld.co.nz)

I suggest you Don't go making an idiot of yourself by trying to fight with insults, I wont react to your attempts and lower myself to the ranting.
wainuitech (129)
1309689 2012-11-01 09:55:00 Give it a rest Mike, if you read the previous posts things are fine both Yorick and myself have commented on posts and there are no problems.

I don't expect it, so no great lose there, your choice as to how you feel, I will say the feeling is the same back, esp since lately there has been at least one outburst that wasn't called for in another thread. pressf1.pcworld.co.nz (pressf1.pcworld.co.nz)

I suggest you Don't go making an idiot of yourself by trying to fight with insults, I wont react to your attempts and lower myself to the ranting.
Nice try but time will tell. I must admit I could have worded that post you linked to better but if that is the best you can do I think you need to try again.
Your last sentence tells me a lot about you.
mikebartnz (21)
1309690 2012-11-01 09:59:00 Wow, talk about a thread hijack.

Anyway, continuing the hijack...

By happy coincidence our gear at work was upgraded overnight. New hardware, new software, new version of Open Office (3.0) !!!

OOo is actually coming of age VERY NICELY!
I can't comment on its compatibility with MS documents, but the feature list is climbing to encompass pretty much all that most 'vanilla' users need.

Base has also improved markedly, and I can see the day coming when I will be able to switch to using it almost exclusively of MS Access. It's got some really great features, including a preview pane for all the database objects, which is surprisingly handy (despite logic suggesting it shouldn't be needed).

It worked pretty swiftly too, given it was running off a server and thin clients.

But the version at work (which gets locked down pretty tight) is missing the option to Import Data from other sources (I import from other DB's, CSV's and text often).
Many of the features now appearing in Base are strikingly similar to the Access equivalents, so they might be walking a tight line regarding lawsuits/copyrights etc, with the macro lockdown options almost word for word how MS has done theirs (and the MS implementations of macro security are a pain!).

If they could keep their docs compatible with the latest MS twists within a few months of each MS update then there'd be little reason to stick with MS anymore.

Problem is, MS likes to churn out changes to default file formats to generate the next generation of purchases, so that BS is going to continue for as long as they have dominance, and as long as consumers don't know any better about their alternatives.

:2cents:
Paul.Cov (425)
1309691 2012-11-01 10:12:00 Wow, talk about a thread hijack.

Anyway, continuing the hijack...

By happy coincidence our gear at work was upgraded overnight. New hardware, new software, new version of Open Office (3.0) !!!

OOo is actually coming of age VERY NICELY!
I can't comment on its compatibility with MS documents, but the feature list is climbing to encompass pretty much all that most 'vanilla' users need.

Base has also improved markedly, and I can see the day coming when I will be able to switch to using it almost exclusively of MS Access. It's got some really great features, including a preview pane for all the database objects, which is surprisingly handy (despite logic suggesting it shouldn't be needed).

It worked pretty swiftly too, given it was running off a server and thin clients.

But the version at work (which gets locked down pretty tight) is missing the option to Import Data from other sources (I import from other DB's, CSV's and text often).
Many of the features now appearing in Base are strikingly similar to the Access equivalents, so they might be walking a tight line regarding lawsuits/copyrights etc, with the macro lockdown options almost word for word how MS has done theirs (and the MS implementations of macro security are a pain!).

If they could keep their docs compatible with the latest MS twists within a few months of each MS update then there'd be little reason to stick with MS anymore.

Problem is, MS likes to churn out changes to default file formats to generate the next generation of purchases, so that BS is going to continue for as long as they have dominance, and as long as consumers don't know any better about their alternatives.

:2cents:
It looks like I will have to give the latest OO a try as have been using LO since the fork because it appeared to be progressing at a greater rate especially with regards to compatibility in file conversion.
I think to a degree MS have cooked their goose as far as churning out new file formats since getting theirs OK'ed as a standard which they have only just managed to achieve themselves.
In regards to the DB import are there any command line options to do so.
mikebartnz (21)
1309692 2012-11-01 10:56:00 How is A4 set as default rather than letter in L.O. Writer? zqwerty (97)
1309693 2012-11-01 17:06:00 :thumbs: Couldn't agree more.

One place I look after has 7 PC's ranging from XP & W7, 1 HP server ( only 5 of the PC's can connect to the server its how they wanted it - long story) only ever hear from them when theres a problem, and 99% of the time its something silly or the printers need some maintenance work.

The server was given to them since they are a charity organisation by HP seven years ago ( roughly) its never missed a beat, never needs any work doing to it.

They were at a charity / fund raising meeting and HP were there, they got talking and the guy from HP said anything we can do to help ask -- So they asked me what would be useful, a server would be nice - suggested a few, well they called the guy back at HP, and a few weeks later, brand new shiny server turned up complete with server 2003 installed, way more powerful than what they will ever use or need :eek: I Was shocked lol

HP have always been brilliant, now if MS took a leaf out of their book I would be much more impressed. I can't understand how HP can supply hardware with MS product pre-installed and yet MS still feel they have to charge. I helped schools doing the Small Schools Infrastructure upgrade project that had an HP server preinstalled with SuSE Linux Enterprise Server and the schools paid full price for the kit including gigabit network through the whole school in 25-75 share with the ministry and when I looked at what the schools got in the project it was clear that Novell and HP were giving them a real deal. Don't use HP hardware myself but Kudos to them for their charity work.
Yorick (8120)
1309694 2012-11-01 19:33:00 How is A4 set as default rather than letter in L.O. Writer?
Format/Page and then it must hold that setting as I couldn't find one elsewhere and mine holds at A4.
mikebartnz (21)
1309695 2012-11-01 20:12:00 How is A4 set as default rather than letter in L.O. Writer?
I forgot to add check your actual printer settings too.
mikebartnz (21)
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