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Thread ID: 23675 2002-08-22 04:20:00 Athlon XP Overheating Query doog (402) Press F1
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73135 2002-08-23 03:03:00 I do not have an XP but when summer came around with my atholon 2.2 it had an idle cpu temp of 54C and was constantly overheating, I added two extra fans and upgraded the heatsink and fan. Now in summertime when running something processor intensive I can keep it down to 52C, so in my experience atholon's are very hot. Still it has given reliable performance so I would probably go for any of the current atholon cpu's minus the 2700+ range, I would probably take a wait and see approach with this.
my one cent.
SaAB (1292)
73136 2002-08-23 03:30:00 >atholon 2.2

????

if its not an XP it sounds like you have a 1.2ghz t'bird.
tweak'e (174)
73137 2002-08-23 11:35:00 Well my 1900+ hits 46-47 under load with a case temp of 40.

This is with a Volcano 7+ on median and no airflow other than the power supply.

Need to get a new case.
-=JM=- (16)
73138 2002-08-23 21:39:00 The following from AMD may help:- :-)

General AMD Athlon XP Processor Specifications Model Number Operating Frequency (MHz) Nominal Voltage Max Die Temperature
1500+ 1333 1.75V 90 Degrees Celsius
1600+ 1400
1700+ 1467
1800+ 1533
1900+ 1600
2000+ 1667
2100+ 1733
2200+ 1800 1.65V 85 Degrees Celsius
Elephant (599)
73139 2002-08-23 23:14:00 thx elphant, that reminds me of a good point.

how is the temp measured? a lot of boards still have the temp diode under he cpu which reads a lot lower in temp. eg if it reads 50 die temp is likly to be around 70-80.

XP's have an internal diode that the motherboard can use to read the die temp. this is a lot more accurate but not all boards use it.

just remember the cpu is only ONE pc componant that can die from overheating. don't forget the rest.
tweak'e (174)
73140 2002-08-23 23:31:00 Here’s some food for thought .

Personally I think the days of using fans to cool CPU’s are fast becoming numbered . With The new Athlon XP 2400+ and Athlon XP 2600+ running at 2 . 0GHz and 2 . 133GHz respectively and Intel breaking the 2 . 8 GHz barrier, it’s essential that better solutions to cooling are found . Agreed - today’s cooling methods are ok in most situations, but as chip makers continue to up their speeds and as users are demanding more output from their systems, there needs to be vast improvements made in the cooling department . I know water cooling has been tried but I think a better option is to have the CPU’s encased in some sort of refrigeration unit that monitors and adjusts the amount of coolant in response to the demands being placed on the CPU . As a result this would ensure a more constant running temperature regardless of what the user is doing, and with the seasonal climatic differences that are encountered .

Regards PressF1 user :-)
PressF1 User (1065)
73141 2002-08-23 23:54:00 i doubt that will ever happen. why???

cost. pure and simple.

big oem's are not going to spend large $$$ on cooling. they will simply wait untill the cpu manafactures have made a cooler running cpu and if cpu manafactures want to sell lots of cpu's they will have to play ball.
tweak'e (174)
73142 2002-08-24 03:11:00 Check out Tom's Hardware and download a video showing an Athlon literally go up in smake when the fan is removed !!!!!!!

Crunn
Crunn (1068)
73143 2002-08-24 03:59:00 its a good demo of what happens when the HEATSINK falls off (eg due to broken clips on socket)

fortunatly new motherboards are coming out with an overheat shutdown feature.(the standard overtemp shut down dosn't work fast enough).

however its still no where near as good as intels thermal overload protection.

just make sure the heatsink is fitted properly and preferably have the 3 lug clips instead of the single.
tweak'e (174)
73144 2002-08-24 08:31:00 Have a look at the Vapochill (http://www.vapochill.com/) cases that have a refridgeration unit.

Also have a look at Zero Fan Zone (http://www.zerofanzone.co.uk) for cooling with out fans/
-=JM=- (16)
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