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73681 2002-08-25 03:33:00 Hi all,
I have a rather annoying problem with an Athlon ~1100 on a MS6340 running ME. When doing CPU intensive operations like ripping or playing America's Army the computer lock-ups. Basically the output to the monitor dies and the NIC goes down.

The hard drive still appears to be working and it is necessary to shutdown for about an hour before the NIC and monitor will wake up.

I initially thought it was a software conflict and have done a "clean" install and only have a minimum of software running, but it definitely doesn't like ripping!

Thoughts appreciated.
Gorela (901)
73682 2002-08-25 03:58:00 well the first thing is to check the temps its running at.

motherboard monitor is very handy for that.
tweak'e (174)
73683 2002-09-14 22:38:00 I downloaded Motherboard Monitor (thanks for the link PCWorld!) and have been running that. The problem still persists and it appears that it isn't CPU overheating that is causing the problem. The highest temperature that it has registered is 55 degrees within about 30 seconds of a lock-up.

The last two times it locked-up (8th September) I was defragging. I have had it running since then and just to cause me additional confusion I have just completed a defrag now with no problems.
Gorela (901)
73684 2002-09-14 23:34:00 > I downloaded Motherboard Monitor (thanks for the link
> PCWorld!) and have been running that . The problem
> still persists and it appears that it isn't CPU
> overheating that is causing the problem . The highest
> temperature that it has registered is 55 degrees
> within about 30 seconds of a lock-up .

The motherboard temperature sensors aren't always accurate or too slow to register sudden temperature surges, and might miss CPU hot-spots that'll cause the heat-sensing diode to shut down the processor .

55 degrees centigrade on average is quite hot . Is the heatsink and cooling fan properly seated on the CPU?

You might want to check your RAM too, with something like memtest86 to see if that's the reason .

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Juha
juha (761)
73685 2002-09-15 04:36:00 55 is on the warmish side alright (assuming thats the cpu temp).

you also need to measure CASE temp as it could be the video card overheating.
tweak'e (174)
73686 2002-09-17 02:07:00 According to the Monitor program set-up I have 3 temp gauges. Sensor 1 is showing 26 deg Sensor 2 is 52 deg and Sensor 3 is 24 deg. I had made the assumption that these were showing internal as well as CPU temperatures.

The computer is 12months old and has been running for eight months with no alterations to the configuration. With this in mind I would have thought that a loose fan would have shown up early.

Would Ram problems cause the network card to shut-down? I had started to think that it could be something to do with the video card or associated with PCI bus.

Thanks for the thoughts. Intermittent problems are a pain!
Gorela (901)
73687 2002-09-17 09:48:00 The NIC goes down... do the green lights on the card go out, or remain lit? Or, can you just not access the machine from across the network?

And the monitor dying... does the monitor lose power? Or does there appear to be a loss of signal to the monitor (eg recieving an error message on the monitor, complaining of no input)?

What other cards do you have installed on your motherboard? Do they still work?

My original theory was the hard-drive... it may have problems and keeps seizing up. This would prevent shares from being accessed (no network traffic) and would lock the system... but it does not explain the monitor problem.

So the problem is probably the motherboard, if it is effecting the devices plugged into it. Try purchasing some more fans from Dick Smith.
KerryD (1620)
73688 2002-09-17 11:44:00 Basically the monitor looks like it has gone into sleep mode. The hard-drive still appears to be working as the access/write light can sometimes still be active after the monitor and network go down.

When I say that the NIC goes down it actually disappears from the hub ie the active connectiion light on the hub goes out.

The only cards are the NIC and GF 2 AGP card. I was using a usb mouse and keyboard and these would loose power, so I have swapped them for PS2 units and while there is still power to the keyboard the computer doesn't respond to ctrl-alt-del.
Gorela (901)
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