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Thread ID: 125642 2012-07-10 05:54:00 Fixed term contracts Nomad (952) PC World Chat
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1287474 2012-07-10 05:54:00 I am just job seeking now, have a question that some of you may able to answer. Hypothetical.

Fixed term contracts may have a bit more certainty right. Like if it was a 3 or 6 months, the indication that work has been assessed and in their view will be there for 3 or 6 months but no guarantee of further work. Having said that is it possible to disestablish the position in a couple of weeks and just give you a few weeks notice?


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Nomad (952)
1287475 2012-07-10 05:58:00 Fixed term is fixed term.
It can be extended by mutual agreement or shortened by mutual agreement

But if only one party wants to shorten it, that party is liable for the full costs of the fixed term to the other one.
So yes they could shut it down in 2 weeks but would still have to pay you for 3 months.
Likewise if you needed to break the contract you would need to negotiate with them a suitable penalty payment as it doesn't usually go on salary when it works this way.
DeSade (984)
1287476 2012-07-10 08:30:00 I think you'll find that there will be a "Notice Period" mentioned in the fine print, even for a fixed term contract (to cover just the situation described above) - could be anything from 1 day to a month, depending on how confident the employer is that the project is a goer, but there would still be a stipulated end date for the fixed term....

If there is no "Notice Period" clause, then, what DeSade said.

Read the contract very carefully!!!
johcar (6283)
1287477 2012-07-10 08:41:00 Thanks for that . I am just looking at them cos fixed terms might be easier to get into than permanent roles . But obviously need to look for another job thereafter .

I was wondering about that cos some yrs ago, got myself a 6 month contract, 2 months into it, the position was disestablished . Got a bit more with the union on top of the 4 weeks notice that I had to work . So in a way fixed term or permanent could just be like temping . . . . . I would have thought there was a guideline of generally accepted practice .
Nomad (952)
1287478 2012-07-10 09:00:00 After working fulltime for 6 yrs I was made redundant (from 1990-96). Then less than a year later, (1997), they wanted me to go back. I was on fixed term contracts (3-6 mths - the longest was 18 mths I think), till 2007/08.

The only good thing about it, was since I had worked in both places previously, my pay went up every time the contracts were renewed.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
1287479 2012-07-10 09:17:00 I started contracting early in 2000 after having been made redundant just before Xmas (I was a Test Manager - I must have done my job too well since they felt confident enough to dis-establish my role right before Y2K!!)

I haven't had a "permie" job since then and my longest consecutive period of unemployment has been about two and a half months . . . So much for "more job security as a permanent"!!!

Having said that, I am a provider of niche services (software testing an data migration work) and like to think I am good at what I do, since much of my work is repeat business . . .
johcar (6283)
1287480 2012-07-10 23:20:00 Well, having no experience with contacts, all I could say would be to read the contact very thoroughly before doing anything. Nick G (16709)
1287481 2012-07-10 23:29:00 Also once you have the foot in the door, it is better the devil you know.... Gobe1 (6290)
1287482 2012-07-10 23:58:00 Fixed term is fixed term.
It can be extended by mutual agreement or shortened by mutual agreement

But if only one party wants to shorten it, that party is liable for the full costs of the fixed term to the other one.
So yes they could shut it down in 2 weeks but would still have to pay you for 3 months.
Likewise if you needed to break the contract you would need to negotiate with them a suitable penalty payment as it doesn't usually go on salary when it works this way.

Quite right...

For ways around this, contact Mony Bill Williams. He has had lots of experience in Australia and France in contract .

Ken ;)
kenj (9738)
1287483 2012-07-11 00:08:00 Might be easier to do short contracts than getting a perm role. Requires work later to get another job thou ..
I've also found that agencies that I've worked with before and gotten contracts off now tended to not work with you anymore but if there is a job just apply for it and they might contact you later.
Nomad (952)
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