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75989 2002-09-03 02:27:00 Is it possible to run Linux in a window? :) if so, how? something like PC-XWare or whatever it's called.

Mike.
Mike (15)
75990 2002-09-03 03:53:00 > Is it possible to run Linux in a window? :) if so,
> how? something like PC-XWare or whatever it's
> called.
>

I think you mean VMWare or Bochs.

yes you can do so.

You can also get linux distributions which can be installed on your windows partition so you can boot into them to try them and not have to worry about stuffing up your windows system.

of course the best solution if you are just wanting to try linux is to try Knoppix - www.knopper.net
A full linux distribution that runs entirely off one CD.
ctonks (746)
75991 2002-09-03 03:55:00 I assume you mean in a "Windows" window, not an "X Window" window. It's VMWare, and it's commercial. It might be a bit messy. But it can be done. Someone asked about how to get the video going in that ... I've just used our search and it was JM. Not long ago, 26 August. Graham L (2)
75992 2002-09-03 04:00:00 Yeah, I mean in a Windows window :)

Mike.
Mike (15)
75993 2002-09-03 08:08:00 Get VMware (http://www.vmware.com). It's not entirely free but does offer a 30-day trial by way of a registration code they will email out. ;) Like what happens with AVG.

It's a really good product. I can install an OS on my computer all at the same time as posting here and listening to ogg/mp3.

You can adjust the amount of memory that you're willing to let the OS use.

As far as I can tell there are no limits as to how many virtual computers can be used. As far as I can tell you can NOT access your windows files. Though it's easy enough to use virtual floppies and CDs.
-=JM=- (16)
75994 2002-09-03 08:38:00 If I use VMware I cannot make use of an already installed Linux, can I? I have to install from scratch on the new Virtual computer... am I right?

am thinking it's not worth the hassle :)

Mike.
Mike (15)
75995 2002-09-03 09:02:00 well not that I know of.

What it does is creates a virtual computer inside a folder.

For example, I've got mandrake 8.2 installed on one at the moment. In the folder there are several files.
vmware.log
nvram
Linux.vmx
Linux.vmdk
Linux-03.vmdk
Linux-02.vmdk

One of the major benefits is that it can bypass the need for drivers. I tried RH7.3 before I installed windows. It came up with a can't detect harddrive (it's running on a RAID chip) but with VMware it goes straight through.

It can also utililise your existing network connection. So it will use NAT to access the internet. Which means internet through linux with a winmodem with great ease.

Having a proper installation of linux is by far the most favoured option. But when it comes to mucking around a bit VMware can be good. Also good for playing those old dos games as well.

The other option is a Linux machine running VMware so you can use Windows.
-=JM=- (16)
75996 2002-09-04 01:29:00 But, what is the point of running a programme inside an OS, to install another OS? Why add two extra (less reliable) layers of complexity (and bugs) to get a slower system.?

Wine, which can run some Windows applications under Linux, is OK.
Graham L (2)
75997 2002-09-04 03:16:00 Because you can.....

How do you slow a computer down...

Install a 128 day eval version of Win 2K SVR, install VMWare, install 128 day eval version of W2K Pro on VMWare use NAT to connect to the W2K SVR and install Terminal Server (ADMIN mode) and run TS from W2K Pro. three windows within windows great way to learn W2K Server et c.


Also here is a thought, how many people dual boot between w98 and w2k pro et c to run old programs or try something or support some-one that uses another operating system,
before my demo ran out I had win 98, win 2k pro, win XP Pro, all with a 10 second boot time. none of this shutting down a computer waiting for it to boot up choose the new OS to start, boil the jug, ...

Wayne H
Wayne H (1736)
75998 2002-09-04 07:17:00 > But, what is the point of running a programme inside
> an OS, to install another OS? Why add two
> extra (less reliable) layers of complexity (and bugs)
> to get a slower system.?

Well in my case I'm new to Linux so it's really handy being able to try out different configurations and different distributions.
-=JM=- (16)
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