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| 76302 | 2002-09-07 00:29:00 | I wonder ... Was your AV still running, and does it have heuristics turned on ?? Perhaps whatever was being written to RAM looked a bit suss and so your AV "neutralised" it before it was written back to the hard drive ..... Just a theory. |
antmannz (28) | ||
| 76303 | 2002-09-07 01:06:00 | Personally I use Diskeeper and it is very good lets me surf while defraging and doesnt upset goback which is marvelous not a good idea to stop it midaway thru though i have done so without any problems in the past | kiwibeat (304) | ||
| 76304 | 2002-09-07 02:03:00 | After following this debate it seems to me the basic problem lies as Ive said in another recent defrag posting, in the defrag program operating on a system that already has some corruption in it, either from a trojan as mentioned, or other file/cluster etc problems. Again it has to be said that it is no use defragging a system that has not been cleaned first, otherwise problems will just get compounded. FAQ #5 needs to be re-written, its too messy for anyone to follow, and it must be stressed that at least an AV and Scandisk are run before Defrag, and most preferably a junk file remover, and a registry cleaner too. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 76305 | 2002-09-07 05:00:00 | Hi I use PowerDefrag, but before I run it I carry out the following steps: 1) Delete all temporary internet files & history . 2) Run Billy T's custom boot disk to remove all temp, index . dat, cookie and associated garbage files that orthodox methods don't touch . 3) Reboot then delete all other unwanted files lying around on my HD . 4) Run scandisk 5) Reboot then run Power defrag I also use the WinMe version of defrag which is faster than the Win98 original . A Google search will locate it for download . IMHO there is little point in defragging a disk full of rubbish, and I usually finish up by running a ghost image of the clean HD to update my current image to include all changes since the last image was written . I'm a fastidious bastard, but then, you don't see too many posts from me worrying about random problems and I work my computer 16/7 . Prevention is better than any cure . Cheers Billy 8-{) :D :D :D |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 76306 | 2002-09-07 06:22:00 | Sorry Terry i beg to diff on how you think that a defrag on a lost cluster or the like can change network settings. Even if it was a network setting that was a lost cluster. Also if a defragger was to come across a problem on the disk it would stop, because the files would not add up on FAT. It is surely a trojan. Question to hunksome, did you apply some sort of crack to this prog? The talk that everything has to in order, before you do a defrag is crap also. defragging whether your internet files are full or not makes no diff, to the way a defrag would operate, apart from the point that those files would not be there to be allocated to ther parts of the disk. If anybody wants to put me wrong, i'd like a technical explanation at the software and hardware level how you think such a thing could allow, or be allowed to happen, Because anybody who's done any sort of IT before, knows that a lot what has been said here is not entirely true |
roofus (483) | ||
| 76307 | 2002-09-07 07:23:00 | I still think halting the powerdefrag halfway thru is a balmy idea...... When I run this program, it finishes its task pretty speedily. I just make sure I have done everything I need to do, run powerdefrag then bugger off for a coffee. I still don't think your problems have anything to do with Powerdefrag. I think you have a nasty in there which has corrupted things |
Baldy (26) | ||
| 76308 | 2002-09-07 09:03:00 | Ummm . . . . . You may have misinterpreted my meaning Roofus . I was not suggesting that good housekeeping would prevent such problems, I was simply making the point, albeit a little obliquely, that there is little point is defragging rubbish . However, failing to run scandisk before defragging can result in partial overwriting of file space that is already occupied, so even though you can get away with not running scandisk 999 time out of 1000, you can't choose whether the 1 critical occasion happens as No . 1, 50, 666 or 1000 . I choose not to take that risk . Enough published experts have given the advice to run scandisk prior to defragging for the message to penetrate my tiny mind and stick; so with the greatest of respect to your experience, which is greater than mine, I trust their collective opinions and advise others to do likewise . There is potentially much to gain, and absolutely nothing to lose . I also choose to believe that my relatively trouble free computing experience is directly related to good housekeeping . My HD has not been reformatted since Win 98 was installed in 1999 and nor has the OS been reinstalled . It is stable and runs reliably 16/7 . My only problems are minor program configuration issues from time to time, usually resolvable by RTFM . Either my sacrifices have appeased the great Gods of computing, or I am doing something right . Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 76309 | 2002-09-07 09:26:00 | I have to go along with Billy on this one. I know you are technically right Roofus, defrag will hang if it finds corrupt files, folders or sectors etc, but those are some of the very reasons people have so much trouble with Defrag. I dont pretend to know all the ins and out of windows, but like Billy I have never had to re-install Win98SE, from when I first had it, and it has been transfered through several hard drives, about 3 motherboards, with no major problems all due to good housekeeping. | Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 76310 | 2002-09-07 09:33:00 | A couple of things (sorry if they have already been posted, its a long thread): The save password problems etc can be caused by your .pwl files getting corrupted. Were you running defrag with the "Check drive for errors" option turned off? Does scandisk pickup any problems on your drive? Does it happen when you run windows defrag? |
bmason (508) | ||
| 76311 | 2002-09-07 09:38:00 | I too have never had to format my hard drive and have been running it for approx 2 years if not more. I agree with the fact that there is no use defragging when you have still have rubbish to get rid of. What i was trying to say is that even if you did have your rubbish & you hadn't scandisked it still would not result in the problems that are been described in this thread. As far as norton speed disk and windows defrag goes, i don't even think you can complete a defrag without having the FAT in order (assured through scandisk). Powerdefrag might be a different matter, but still even if a lost chain was written over etc bla bla, it wouldn't result in the perculiar activities that has been experienced by hukcsome<sp>. I will be interested to here what the technicians have for a solution to hukcsome's problems. ...................... |
roofus (483) | ||
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