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Thread ID: 24160	2002-09-04 20:44:00	Outlook Express deleted emails	John Boy (1365)	Press F1

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76480	2002-09-05 01:28:00	I should probably add to the confusion ]:) by saying that these files can be stored anywhere, and the location stated is only the default one that OE creates... My actual useful stores are on D:\outlook\profilename or something like that..( i have 2 profiles, one for me, one for my better ½). i don't know what your set up is, or who set it up, but it is a common practice to have the store on an entirely different drive so that you can reformat or survive your system drive failing, WITHOUT losing the message store... This is a practice that saved my but after a nasty noise and a dead HDD some months back.. again, if you want to find your file, use the search.........	Chris Wilson (431)
76481	2002-09-05 03:00:00	I use win xp home i was wondering because i deleted a email i needed from the delete files and thought i 'd be able to see it in the program files where they are stored ,, thanks	johnboy (217)
76482	2002-09-05 03:08:00	As long as you have not used the computer for *anything* since you deleted the file, it may be able to be recovered using specialised data recovery methods. If you have used the PC, then the location where it was could have been written over.	godfather (25)
76483	2002-09-05 03:41:00	long gone now. But is'nt it strange to keep copies but you can't esaly access them ????... ?:|	johnboy (217)
76484	2002-09-05 04:06:00	I'm rather confused here. First johnboy asks how to delete emails permanently from his hard drive, now he is saying he wants to recover a deleted email that he wishes to keep. The emails in all those folders are accessible but you need to use a special program to extract the emails. A freeware one, dbxtractor, is available from here (pages.prodigy.net). Note that you can't extract just one email from a folder, they are all extracted. That site has a pretty good explanation.	Susan B (19)
76485	2002-09-05 04:17:00	Sorry for the confusing Susan but it seems that there are two John Boys here. one with the upper case the other lower case. I put the original question johnboy is asking the later one.	John Boy (1365)
76486	2002-09-05 04:18:00	To quote robo >>>Basically, it uses a database like lots of other programs do, and as it deletes records it marks it as deleted but doesn't remove it. It is likely to be overwritten over time (think of it like a bookcase full of books, you take some out, the rest of the books are still in the same places and you can tell where the missing books were) Now the thing is when you remove the books from the shelf, they haven't actually gone, they just don't have any referance in the file system to them any more, they are invisible noize on your HDD.... compacting the folder, actually removes them, and if you like, makes the shelves where the books were (the .dbx file in this case) a bit smaller, so that there isn't silly gaps full of useless zeros and ones. It is similar with the entire file system, when you "delete" any file, all you are really doing is telling the computer to cease acknowledging the data in any given area, the computer will see that data as useless noize, and ignore it, unless it needs the space, and will then write something in the space, and give the fresh data in that area a new file name. This is why "deleted" files can sometimes be recovered, but usually not if you have put new stuff in the drive, or in the case of OE compacted the file.	Chris Wilson (431)
76487	2002-09-05 04:25:00	> Sorry for the confusing Susan but it seems that there > are two John Boys here . one with the upper case the > other lower case . I put the original question johnboy > is asking the later one . OMG there are too! :O I never picked that up . LOL :D	Susan B (19)
76488	2002-09-05 04:28:00	I thank you for that explanation Chris, My concern was that with a limited size hard drive that it was eventually going to get so big that all the junk that I thought I had deleted was just sitting there taking up valuable space.	John Boy (1365)
76489	2002-09-05 04:43:00	They will take up space, but not a huge amount unless all your emails have pictures in them or attachments or fancy formatting. That's what expands their size more than anything. Like us people, it's still good to do what you can to keep them trim though. Have you been to our FAQs (frequently asked questions) section and read up on deleting your temporary files? At the top right of this window is a link to them and you'll probably find a few quite useful, particularly the temp files one and the defrag one. Apologies if you already know this. :-) Hey Chris, I pinched that wonderful explanation of your for my Outlook Express maintenance tips post. I plan to turn that into a FAQ when/if I get some feedback on it. ;-)	Susan B (19)
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