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77553 2002-09-08 06:29:00 NetBIOS is part of the TCP/IP protocol. You will find that it is already running (by default) by checking your TCP/IP properties. I'm running 10mb through a hub and it took 30 minutes to transfer 4gb.

One thing that would help speed your network would be by creating LMhost files on your computers. If you are running a peer to peer a lot of traffic can be generated while the computers chatter amongs themselves to see who's where and it can be worse if there is a browse war.

It should be possible to create a hosts file on the XP Pro machine and make it the preferred Local Master. That means that most IP address requests would be directed there rather than broadcast messages clogging you network.
Gorela (901)
77554 2002-09-08 08:00:00 Ok, so if NetBIOS is already running, how come I cant see other computers on the network unless I am using NetBEUI ?? Nuts8 (1787)
77555 2002-09-08 08:13:00 NetBIOS is just windows networking. It can be run over protocols such as NetBEUI, TCP/IP and IPX/SPX.

It would seem that Netbios is bound to the NetBEUI protocol, or else TCP/IP is not correctly configured if you can only see the other computers when using NetBEUI.
BIFF (1)
77556 2002-09-08 09:00:00 Do you have File and Pinter Sharing as well as Client for Microsoft Networks? The main problem with client is that it will force logging on to the computer. Gorela (901)
77557 2002-09-08 11:09:00 The primary network logon for all the computers is windows logon although I have Client for Microsoft Networks installed. Yes file sharing is setup on all machines.

With regard to n earlier post. Where do you buy connectors for solid copper cat 5 cable, dicksmith only seem to sell the type for multi strand cable ??.

Thanks heaps everybody for your input, really awesome.

Cheers - Nuts
Nuts8 (1787)
77558 2002-09-08 11:37:00 try setting cleint for microsoft networks as primary logon. only catch is the password prompt which you can use tweakui to atuo log in for you. tweak'e (174)
77559 2002-09-08 22:00:00 In the past we have used Client for Microsoft Networks as the primary logon but like as you say, the password prompt - however we are able to just press enter and away it goes, how do you set user name and passwords for this client ??. We found that using windows logon got rid of this prompt. If we did use client for microsoft networks, could we get away with not using NetBEUI ??. Nuts8 (1787)
77560 2002-09-08 23:31:00 this (grc.com) is why i like to have netbeui installed.

clicking enter ok if you don't really need passwords. you can setup tweakui to do this for you.
tweak'e (174)
77561 2002-09-09 03:07:00 You can get the proper connectors from Jaycar. South Island Components in Christchurch (www.sicom.co.nz/) also have them ...they are a Jaycar dealer. I am not saying that the connectors are the cause, but there is a difference in the contact form, and that is for a reason. Insulation displacement connectors such as this are very "technology" , and the reliability depends on everything being right.

I think the story with NetBios is that it runs under TCP/IP. It should never be bound to the Internet access (such as modem); only to the Microsoft Network Client. That enables the machines to see each other in "Network neighbourhood" (or the modern equivalent). NETBEUI is a "non-routable" protocol, and will not be accessible from outside.
Graham L (2)
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