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Thread ID: 24304	2002-09-08 02:06:00	This posting is coming to you from (pure) DOS	Terry Porritt (14)	Press F1

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77520	2002-09-08 02:06:00	Thought I may as well try out the DOS web browser I mentioned in a posting below. Gee, it installs easily, complete with PPP dial up wizard, full graphical screen etc. It is called Arachne, anyone wanting to play can get it from http://arachne.cz The executable download is less than 1MB.	Terry Porritt (14)
77521	2002-09-08 02:25:00	Hi TP, Please excuse the ignorance,but is the idea of using this Browser for those with older computers with small CPU's and low on memory resources? Also assume you must run it in DOS Command mode! Seems to" do a bit"for an app so small! Cheers,Kiwitas,;-)	Kiwitas (514)
77522	2002-09-08 02:27:00	It's nice isn't it? It hasn't been featured enough to become bloated. I have it on my laptop (4MB ram, 60MB disk, 10-20 MHz 486DLC). I recommended it here last year ... it's about time someone tried it. ;-)	Graham L (2)
77523	2002-09-08 02:48:00	Back in Windows mode now :) It is nice isnt it Graham? It's a case of small is beautiful. The download file expands to create a directory (as it is DOS we now have to talk of directories, not folders!!) of 3.24MB, and an email client also comes with it within that size accessible from the browser. The hardware requirements are minimal, a 386 with a few megabytes of ram and a 20MB hard drive, an external modem or full ISA internal, and you would be away surfing and emailing. I havent tried it yet from within windows, only from booting into dos. From the C:\ prompt you just type arachne, and the rest is a full graphical interface. But then again, it's always taken megabytes of windows program to do what 500k of dos would do.	Terry Porritt (14)
77524	2002-09-08 03:01:00	Have a good look at the documentation Terry. They say if you have "lots" of memory, by which they mean "more than 2MB", use a "ram disk" to speed up the operation. The method is given: make a zipped copy of the running system, and copy that and command.com to the ram disk ... It gets a bit involved, and I never fully implemented it. Having command.com on a ram disk was a good trick in the old days -- speeded work up a lot.	Graham L (2)
77525	2002-09-08 03:44:00	I found it disturbingly good. It also supports add-ons thru its own package format, and has a reasonable file manager. I was running it on my 286, although it was a bit slow at rendering pages because of the lack of memory (4min w/o pics, 15min with pics). You would have been disapointed if you had tried to post to the old PressF1, it worked perfectly except for the missing "post" button when you replied. :-(	bmason (508)
77526	2002-09-08 09:04:00	> few megabytes of ram and a 20MB hard drive, an > external modem or full ISA internal, and you would be So I guess my PCI HCF Winmodem is out of the question? :( Mike.	Mike (15)
77527	2002-09-08 10:37:00	Yes Mike, unfortunately or otherwise, the modem has to be a real one to work with dos ;)	Terry Porritt (14)
77528	2002-09-08 11:21:00	> > few megabytes of ram and a 20MB hard drive, an > > external modem or full ISA internal, and you would > be > > So I guess my PCI HCF Winmodem is out of the > question? :( > > Mike. It will if you use it through VM Ware. But if you're already running an OS you might as well just use the browser that is handy. :D Terry, what happens in the way of ads with that browser?	-=JM=- (16)
77529	2002-09-08 11:34:00	Well, JM, I saw all the ads that I havent seen before on Press F1 :) You wouldnt really know that you werent in Windows, just a bit different layout as regards tool bars etc. During setup the screen resolution can be selected, you are not limited to 640x480. I also had the impression that maybe pages loaded a little more slowly than with IE, but not sure of that. I dont know of any dos firewalls, or whether such would be advisable or not, neither do I know of a dos AV scanner that could run in the background, but then dos is not multitasking. The email client worked well too, sent myself a few test emails, left a couple on the server, than went back into windows to check them. This program would be good with a low spec cheap laptop like Graham has, if you are travelling around, and need to communicate.	Terry Porritt (14)
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