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79083 2002-09-13 03:07:00 Where does the info, file or programme go when i do a backup.
Does it fill up my hard drive?
How do i recall it?
When requested to re-install the file from backup where do i look for it.
Also have i got it right when a file is deleted it remains on my hard drive but not accessible, in fact it gets written over in time

This has not happened much but i am just curious.
backstage (1081)
79084 2002-09-13 03:10:00 Hooboy
Loaded questions.
You need to be a little more specific.
If you are talking about backups in word and excel when you save them, yes they just take up disk space, and you can use them by double-clicking on the from Explorer.
More than that and we need more data.
robo.
robo (205)
79085 2002-09-13 03:13:00 What program are you using when you do a "backup", and what files are you "backing up" and what version of Windows (if indeed you are running windows)

A backup is of little use if you are not saving it to a separate hard drive, or CD, or removeable media, as the prime value of a backup is to restore the system in the event of a drive failure. Storing it on the same drive is only of value to restore a corrupted file or files.

Only when you advise what program you are using, can we suggest where the settings are for the location of the files.

And yes, when you delete a file it physically remains on the disk, and if you had enough money it could likely be extracted almost at anytime in the future. Generally they eventually get written over, but technology exists to extract them.
godfather (25)
79086 2002-09-13 04:33:00 Goddie. I think the sentence could well read, " We have the technology we can Read & Do Anything". But which Govt is going to admit it??
:| Poppa John
Poppa John (284)
79087 2002-09-13 04:47:00 checks the <hidden information> in PJ's Post...

<writes in little black notebook...grab disk from P*****i Rd Papatoetoe Phone Number 2** 2**4 >

Am I close yet? Or is my crystal ball fogged?
godfather (25)
79088 2002-09-13 04:55:00 Goddie. Looking in the phone book won't find me.Don't go near that Ph No, that Ex little lady has long CLAWS. although we are friendly now!!!!!!!!! Poppa John :D :D Poppa John (284)
79089 2002-09-13 05:05:00 Windows me and it is in accessories.
I have not opened it as i do not understand it if i did.
I save all my files after naming them.
Sorry if i sound vague. I am not sure what i am asking?
Am i right in thinking that if i down loaded a programme that was great I would back it up so i don't loose it? Ever!
Sorry guys but I read where it is the thing to do is 'backup your files'
I truly am in the dark as what backup means
I just may have the wrong idea of what it is all about.
When i installed windows me it said if you have windows 98 back it up so i did not really understanding what i was doing and in the excitement of it all I just followed instructions Nothing has gone wrong but i would like to know what it is all about
I did read the manual over and over. It still has not got thru as to what it does orther save or save as?
backstage (1081)
79090 2002-09-13 05:05:00 Dont have the phone book down here...(not the dorkland one, anyway)

Phew, just as well <strikes name out of black book>
godfather (25)
79091 2002-09-13 05:38:00 Umm. A bit of terminology. A file on a disk has a lifetime. If the disk fails catastophically, it is quite likely that all the files on it will die at that moment. If a computer user ticks the "Yes" option to am "Are you sure?" prompt, a file might die at that moment. (In that case, it *might* be recoverable -- it could have gone to the Recycle Bin, or ther might be other ways).

So we backup files. That means that each day, or each week, or ... every file which has been changed since the last backup operation is copied to another medium. That can be a CDR, or a DVD-RW for the rich, or a tape, or a stack of floppy disks. By Mainframe standards these are not "backups". A mainframe backup means at least two copies of each, stored at different locations. That's how a business can remain in business after the building containing their computer system burns down.

Since we are lazy, and not paid to maintain our own computer systems, we tend to backup religiously. We start just after a disaster like a disk crash or a fatal virus infection. We do it for a week. Then we get back into the "It can't happen to me" mode. ;-)

There are other sorts of "backup". When you open a document in Word or something like it, you can have a setting so that the original will be saved with the suffix ".bak". So if you make a real mess of the changes, you can go back to that copy. That is very useful. When you upgrade ypur operating system, you are often give the option to "back up" the old version. If you find that the new one is not better and you want to recover the old one you can uninstall the new one. (I don't think that Microsoft offer you your money back if you do that :-()
Graham L (2)
79092 2002-09-13 06:00:00 Have a look at this (www.pcnineoneone.com) site for a good explanation of backing up.

As you will see in the article, probably the best medium to backup on is CD-R and CD-RW disks but you need a CD burner for this. To backup your files you then just drag and drop your "My Documents" folder and certain other files over to the CD disk using the burner's program.

To restore the files when required, you just do the reverse. The secret is keeping all your data in one place, as the above website article explains.
Susan B (19)
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