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Thread ID: 24519 2002-09-13 00:50:00 Home Networking Problem Scottie (837) Press F1
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79022 2002-09-13 03:58:00 Cat5 and Cat5E are just grades of networking cable. The E stands for "enhanced" and can carry a faster data rate.

In simple terms, crossover cable has the wiring reversed at one end so that out at one end talks to in at the other, and vice versa. If both computers are talking at once at opposite ends of the same connection and both are listening on the other, nothing is going to work.

If you didn't go and specifically buy a crossover cable, unless you fluked the accidental acquisition of one, you don't have the necessary interconnection for your network to operate.

The cable you have can be tested with a meter to see what it is, but you will have to do a search on the net for the pin-out connections to test. Resolve this and you can move forwards.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
79023 2002-09-13 04:21:00 You don't have to search the Internet for the connections: you have PressF1.

The two pairs which are used for 10/100BaseT are on pins 1&2 and pins 3&6. In a crossover cable the end to end relationship is 1 -- 3
2 -- 6
3 -- 1
6 -- 2
4 -- don't care
5 -- don't care
7 -- don't care
8 -- don't care

If you hold the plug up with the cable hanging at the bottom, and the latch away from you, the pin numbers are: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
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Graham L (2)
79024 2002-09-14 01:09:00 > Thanks for all the suggestion people but
> unfortunately i think i have tried everything that
> has been suggested so far with still no luck.
>
> The IP address that i have got for the gateway is
> 192.168.0.1
>
> Should that be something different?

Find out what the IP address of the ADSL router's Ethernet interface is, and use that.

Note that you need to keep the machines on the same subnet, ie. if the IP address of the router is 192.168.1.254, then your machines should be 192.168.1.1 etc. and not 192.168.0.1, unless you want to learn how to route between subnets as well.

> No windows shares have been setup either.

You'll need that, once you've got the basic IP connectivity working.


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Juha
juha (761)
79025 2002-09-14 01:40:00 Do you log on to Win98 with a password

You need to log on for networking to work. If you just escape out of the log on dialog, networking won't work. If you haven't created a password yet, it will ask you to when you type one in.

(that's what happened for me anyway when I networked XP to 98)

Graeme
Graeme (1537)
79026 2002-09-14 03:05:00 You can't get anywhere if you can't ping both ways . I think that you cable is OK because you are getting a timeout . If the cable was wrong, I *suspect* you would get a different message .

Billy suggested he needed NetBIOS . . . I think I've read something about that . NetBios should be bound [b]only[/b[]to Microssoft Network Client, not to any Internet connected client .

The logging in, (and having a "user" on an Xp machine for the other machine) might be needed too .

Networking is tricky . The setup has to be exactly right . A "nearly right" configuration doesn't work . ;-) Sometimes the easiest fix is to uninstall it, then reinstall . . .
Graham L (2)
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