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80654 2002-09-18 13:27:00 i had a comparable situation when I bought mine back at the start of year.... STRESSED that i wanted to use linux so wanted them to check the hardware was compatible, and it took me a good 3 months to get everything sorted out (he says after searching AGAIN for the causes of random boot crashes...)

Anyways, I was gonna say, if you don't have one, invest in a CD writer. That way you can burn off a good 600+ megs of your old photo work at a time, and clean your HD up a bit. Surely you don't need all the old stuff that you do on you HD all the time. CD backup is ideal for that kinda stuff. I do it with uni work... burn off a semesters work and then delete it off the HD.

>If i took Susans method of adding 60GB total and keeping 20GB as a >backup how would that work - would i just be able to put the 20GB >back in at my leisure/when needed kind of thing? - (Sorry but i am not >very up on this side of things) Which does sound like a good idea.

na, you'd leave it in all the time (well, I would!). Do your work on the big 60, and periodically copy across to the 20 as backup...

Remember... no matter how big your HD is, you will always need more space, no matter how much RAM you have, it's not enough, and no matter how fast your CPU is, it sure ain't fast enough....
loser (538)
80655 2002-09-18 21:19:00 > Do you have access to the SuSe-Linux 7 CD set?

No. I see on the SuSu site that Suse 8.0 is out - but the FedX p&p price is twice the cost of the CD's! Would it be best to wait and buy it in NZ (and can you)?

Jen
Jen C (20)
80656 2002-09-18 21:30:00 Hi. I suspect that if they claim your warranty is void by adding a user-replaceable component, they will be contravening some Act or the other - eg Fair Trading act.

As far as adding extra disc space, I'd say definitly go for getting a second drive, and retain the smaller one as a backup for your system data... it's easy to make a backup of your operating system and data files, and save it compressed onto your old C drive.

Also, you'll possibly find that new drives of 60+ gigs are the least expensive these days.
Greg S (201)
80657 2002-09-18 22:21:00 jen C

If you want SuSe 8.0
please write to pugwash@ihug.co.nz
i can get you the disks

Chris.
Chris Wilson (431)
80658 2002-09-19 05:33:00 Soni and Greg - I rang and checked again about the warranty thing and it being void if i do it and quoted your opinions, so the new story is that if i do it myself and run into any problems because they aren't compatible etc...(which they said is quite common) it is all down to me and no warranty coverage e.g if i wreck something else in the process. I don't think i will risk it with my limited knowledge at the moment, as it would be my luck it would all go wrong!!! Thanks for that imfo tho.

O.k I already have a c.d writer and do use it alot.
Its just time we feel for some more room and Ram.
I now understand a little more about if i add another 60gig and use the 20gig as backup and like that idea, and now understand if i go with that idea i will (they will)have to reinstall the O.S on the 60gig, and the 20gig won't have the o.s and will be purely backup.
Next hurdle is the RAM - apparently i am lucky for some reason and am able to have sd or ddr RAM, as you usually can only have one,(well thats what the tech said?), i currently have sd - so feedback please on which one people think is the better option, bearing in mind if i go for ddr i will have to buy a whole 512 and if sd only another 256, however it is performance i am looking for, so what is the best in peoples opinions (paticularly for the gaming side of things)? I bet its ddr!!???
Last and depending on finances after the hd and ram - as i can see this is getting out of hand as i knew it would, we may go for a better Video card - currently we have a NVIDIA GeForce MX 100/200 - which must be pretty outdated now i guess. Price will be a factor with this - but it is something my partner will appreciate for his gaming, so looking for feedback into good vid cards for gaming - nothing like an $800 one or anything that extreme mind you!!!!!! - just something that will give us noticeable results in the gaming side of things would be good.

Thanks once again for all the feedback - i really appreciate it :-)
J ZEP (336)
80659 2002-09-19 05:47:00 Ok, assuming you want to make the best budget decision, here's what I'd do...

Get the new 40 or 60 G drive and pop that in as your D, keeping existing 20 as C. That way you keep all old data and op/sys as is without fidling. You can then back up entire C onto D for precautionary purposes, with plenty of space left over to install all new data and games on the new D.

I'd go with sticking to the sd to increase to 512, then go for a new GeForce 4 4200 vid card, for around $350.

The above option also means the shop will charge less to do the physical stuff, which, if they charge by the time spent, incrementally, will save a bit in labour.
Greg S (201)
80660 2002-09-19 05:57:00 I was going to suggest exactly that arrangement with the hard drives Greg, but was wondering if having the games and programs on the D drive would slow them down a bit, being on a separate drive rather than a separate partition? Or does it make no difference? Susan B (19)
80661 2002-09-19 06:22:00 Your PC is pretty high specced - and would have been pretty damn good 9 months ago, so the salesman did fulfill your order.

Secondly, let me assume for now that you are having performance problems, and do actually need the new components.

You HD space is a little limited. Get another 60GB. Since you are getting the shop to do it, get them to image your old drive and copy it to the new one. That will save them reinstalling the OS etc. You can then use the 20GB for backups. Do some research into partitioning, and get them to partition the drive while they have it. That way, you don't need to do it later on at more expense.

Secondly, as far as RAM goes, 256 is a little low for LOTS of photo editing. DDR performs much better, but is also more expensive. If money is a factor, get the 256 sdr. If you can afford the DDR, definitely get that.

Again, as with the other parts, the video card, although good is not the ultimate for gaming. Video cards are pretty easy - just get the most expensive one you can afford - easy.

Where did you get your PC from?? The waranty situation is a little funny. People don't really know what their rights are - Target should do a "know your rights" section on it.

Opening the case WILL NOT void your waranty, although tinkering inside might deoending on what you do. eg if you are grounded properly and a static charge kills the mobo, then you probably aren't covered. Same goes if your RAM is faulty and it screwws up something else. However, if you install it correctly, and the computer dies - then the waranty is not void because you installed the RAm unless they can prove that that is what caused the fault.

G P
Graham Petrie (449)
80662 2002-09-19 06:25:00 Very good point susan - that is the impression i got for using the 60gig as the main drive?? As i asked why go that way. More feedback please ;\ (pain aren't i!) J ZEP (336)
80663 2002-09-19 06:31:00 Good point, specially as games are so performance demanding. However, (speaking from an avid gamer's perspective with only a very modestly spec'd machine), I've noticed no degredation in performance whatsoever whether running them either from C or D. Both my drives are almost identical spec, so the comparison is fair. GF should be able to confirm that either IDE channel should provide virtually the same access times, whether primary or secondary.

I tend to get greater performance than some of my opposition players online, despite their having latest and greatest specs... my advantage of course is adsl :)
Greg S (201)
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