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| Thread ID: 125854 | 2012-07-23 20:37:00 | Smoking & sale of tobacco | globe (11482) | PC World Chat |
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| 1290276 | 2012-07-25 05:10:00 | But not quite as many multiple offenders.;) | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1290277 | 2012-07-25 05:55:00 | Let alone car exhausts etc.... you'd survive a garage of ciggie smoke more than you would a garage of exhaust..... I doubt that, Once the toxic chemicals displaced the oxygen you would suffocate, pass out and die. The difference is that if you did survive you would possibly have an urge to pay large corporations thousands of dollars to repeat the experience with the ciggie smoke due to its addictive properties. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1290278 | 2012-07-25 06:10:00 | Incident, accident, semantics in this context. All accidents in effect are incidents, i.e. they can be traced back to a root cause blah blah blah Granted I won't convince someone with your obvious level of expertise, But I will correct you, You are quite wrong. In the context being discussed there is a clear difference, An incident is the result of a deliberate action, an accident is the result of a....wait for it.....accidental action. An example. A car load of tourists pass a truck with no clear line of visibility, They have a head on collision and most of them die horrible deaths. A deliberate action with a not unexpected result.This is an incident. The decision was made to place themselves in extreme danger. A van load of tourists found drove on the gravel beside the road, lost control, crashed and most of them died horrible deaths. Clearly he did not intend to drive off the road, This is an accident. No deliberate action was taken that lead to the end result. By calling them both accidents we ignore completely how unnecessary and easily avoidable the first crash is, and we learn nothing from it, Hence it will be repeated. If all we take from those events is lessons from the future then that is at least something. I know, I know, You probably have another blah blah blah in you, so I'll give you another example. A man is stacking boxes in warehouse, There is a hole in the floor, He steps into it, falls 2m, breaks his neck and dies. This is an accident, He had no intention of placing himself in danger. 6 months later, same warehouse, a man is stacking boxes, He climbs over the barricade now in place around the hole, falls in,breaks his neck and dies. This is an incident, He took a deliberate action, He did not accidentally climb over the barricade. That concludes today's lesson, I hope you learned something, And in future when the discussion comes up you won't be so far out of your depth. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1290279 | 2012-07-25 06:14:00 | Granted I won't convince someone with your obvious level of expertise, But I will correct you, You are quite wrong. In the context being discussed there is a clear difference, An incident is the result of a deliberate action, an accident is the result of a....wait for it.....accidental action. An example. A car load of tourists pass a truck with no clear line of visibility, They have a head on collision and most of them die horrible deaths. A deliberate action with a not unexpected result.This is an incident. The decision was made to place themselves in extreme danger. A van load of tourists found drove on the gravel beside the road, lost control, crashed and most of them died horrible deaths. Clearly he did not intend to drive off the road, This is an accident. No deliberate action was taken that lead to the end result. By calling them both accidents we ignore completely how unnecessary and easily avoidable the first crash is, and we learn nothing from it, Hence it will be repeated. If all we take from those events is lessons from the future then that is at least something. I know, I know, You probably have another blah blah blah in you, so I'll give you another example. A man is stacking boxes in warehouse, There is a hole in the floor, He steps into it, falls 2m, breaks his neck and dies. This is an accident, He had no intention of placing himself in danger. 6 months later, same warehouse, a man is stacking boxes, He climbs over the barricade now in place around the hole, falls in,breaks his neck and dies. This is an incident, He took a deliberate action, He did not accidentally climb over the barricade. That concludes today's lesson, I hope you learned something, And in future when the discussion comes up you won't be so far out of your depth.Why this makes sense, why are you still unemployed? |
plod (107) | ||
| 1290280 | 2012-07-25 06:42:00 | Granted I won't convince someone with your obvious level of expertise, But I will correct you, You are quite wrong. In the context being discussed there is a clear difference, An incident is the result of a deliberate action, an accident is the result of a....wait for it.....accidental action. An example. A car load of tourists pass a truck with no clear line of visibility, They have a head on collision and most of them die horrible deaths. A deliberate action with a not unexpected result.This is an incident. The decision was made to place themselves in extreme danger. A van load of tourists found drove on the gravel beside the road, lost control, crashed and most of them died horrible deaths. Clearly he did not intend to drive off the road, This is an accident. No deliberate action was taken that lead to the end result. By calling them both accidents we ignore completely how unnecessary and easily avoidable the first crash is, and we learn nothing from it, Hence it will be repeated. If all we take from those events is lessons from the future then that is at least something. I know, I know, You probably have another blah blah blah in you, so I'll give you another example. A man is stacking boxes in warehouse, There is a hole in the floor, He steps into it, falls 2m, breaks his neck and dies. This is an accident, He had no intention of placing himself in danger. 6 months later, same warehouse, a man is stacking boxes, He climbs over the barricade now in place around the hole, falls in,breaks his neck and dies. This is an incident, He took a deliberate action, He did not accidentally climb over the barricade. That concludes today's lesson, I hope you learned something, And in future when the discussion comes up you won't be so far out of your depth. In which case why do you never have "AFR" only "IFR" where these things are measured ? |
globe (11482) | ||
| 1290281 | 2012-07-25 06:42:00 | Why this makes sense, why are you still unemployed? I'm an ********. Muhahahahaha |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1290282 | 2012-07-25 06:51:00 | I'm an ********. MuhahahahahaAnd that's no accident |
plod (107) | ||
| 1290283 | 2012-07-26 00:21:00 | HERE (www.stuff.co.nz) you go guys, the matter is now resolved. :banana | B.M. (505) | ||
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