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Thread ID: 125854	2012-07-23 20:37:00	Smoking & sale of tobacco	globe (11482)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
1290266	2012-07-25 02:27:00	No, it is simply a statement of the penalty to be imposed if they catch you doing it. :) Too right :D aww but arnt cigars awesome! i dont smoke but i love the smell and taste of cigars.... And the first whiff of a match being struck...is it sulphur??? Yeah something like that. I'm more of a fan of the softer, fragrant vanilla ones myself, but I probably have two a year if even that?	Chilling_Silence (9)
1290267	2012-07-25 03:07:00	That would be an incident. Driving like a twat is a deliberate act and the end result is almost guaranteed rather then unforeseen. Incident, accident, semantics in this context. All accidents in effect are incidents, i.e. they can be traced back to a root cause blah blah blah	globe (11482)
1290268	2012-07-25 03:09:00	The smoker, thinks of himself and only himself. However, when smoking in public, he is effectively forcing everyone around him to to smoke, therefore giving them the associated health risks. What he is doing by smoking in public is creating a negative externality. And, the way to correct this is by taxing the smoker, thus giving them an incentive not to smoke, and hence not to pass on the health risks to those they smoke around. I think this is quite well managed by the smoking laws that presently exist. Can't smoke inside in public places etc. There's the old arguement of walking past people in the street having a fag, but I walk past a hundred wood burners spewing out carbon particles every night when I take the dog for a walk.	globe (11482)
1290269	2012-07-25 03:17:00	Let alone car exhausts etc.... you'd survive a garage of ciggie smoke more than you would a garage of exhaust.....	rob_on_guitar (4196)
1290270	2012-07-25 03:31:00	Let alone car exhausts etc.... you'd survive a garage of ciggie smoke more than you would a garage of exhaust..... Does that mean doing either is particularly clever? ;)	Chilling_Silence (9)
1290271	2012-07-25 03:34:00	Shows which is more damaging. Just one example. But I do wish the tree hugger police would go back to their enlightened cancer free place that they magically came from.... lets work hard on a real issue... like murderers and stuff...	rob_on_guitar (4196)
1290272	2012-07-25 03:41:00	^100%	Gobe1 (6290)
1290273	2012-07-25 04:54:00	Shows which is more damaging. Just one example. But I do wish the tree hugger police would go back to their enlightened cancer free place that they magically came from.... lets work hard on a real issue... like murderers and stuff... What about suicides.	mikebartnz (21)
1290274	2012-07-25 04:58:00	What about suicides. Which as far as I'm aware in New Zealand has a higher death-toll than drink-driving!	Chilling_Silence (9)
1290275	2012-07-25 05:05:00	Which as far as I'm aware in New Zealand has a higher death-toll than drink-driving! Not only higher than drink driving but higher than all road deaths. Recently I heard that Palmerston North was having two a week.	mikebartnz (21)
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