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Thread ID: 125830 2012-07-22 02:13:00 Which is more evil ? globe (11482) PC World Chat
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1290019 2012-07-26 02:11:00 There is nothing ethical in accessing someones wifi network without their permission,and the fact it can easily be done is no justification.

Shoplifting is easy if you happen to be that way inclined.
Metla (12)
1290020 2012-07-26 02:20:00 No this is more "You can easily do it without realizing as you do other things" though. As your phone goes along, it also does the same as what Google did (Be it an iPhone, Android or Windows Mobile) however your phone simply filters out everything that is *not* the SSID of an open network that it can connect to. Chilling_Silence (9)
1290021 2012-07-26 02:31:00 There is nothing ethical in accessing someones wifi network without their permission,and the fact it can easily be done is no justification.

I don't think people should access other people's networks without permission either, but they need to realise that if they have an unencrypted network then other people can and probably will take a look.

If you leave your house doors wide open you can't complain a whole lot if someone walks in and looks around, because some people will just do that. They shouldn't, but they do.


The funny thing is that is that an unsecured WiFi with the SSID being broadcast is pretty much the same thing as opening all your doors, and standing outside and shouting "HEY, MY HOUSE IS RIGHT HERE AND MY DOORS ARE WIDE OPEN"


What are you going to do? Sue people because they heard you?
Agent_24 (57)
1290022 2012-07-26 03:04:00 What are you going to do? Sue people because they heard you?

Of course not, i'd rant on the internet....

That aside, If its just down to how easy it is, how does that apply to someone with the skills and hardware to break into a secure network?

An honest person knows its not right to be poking around on another's network, and for good reason.

Anyhow, I'll leave my door to my house open, And If I find someone inside then Mr wooden bat will meet Mr head, And I wont be stopping to ask if they came through an open door, a closed door or a window.
Metla (12)
1290023 2012-07-26 03:08:00 If anyone thinks its OK to eavesdrop on unsecured wifi, please supply your home address so we can try & hack into your wifi. If we get in its your fault.

No, if you give someone permission to eavesdrop it is not eavesdropping anymore, it is listening. Quite different to breaking and entering
Gobe1 (6290)
1290024 2012-07-26 05:43:00 If you leave your house doors wide open you can't complain a whole lot if someone walks in and looks around, because some people will just do that. They shouldn't, but they do.

The funny thing is that is that an unsecured WiFi with the SSID being broadcast is pretty much the same thing as opening all your doors, and standing outside and shouting "HEY, MY HOUSE IS RIGHT HERE AND MY DOORS ARE WIDE OPEN"

Well said. I think that's the key difference.... the broadcasting.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1290025 2012-07-30 02:22:00 www.stuff.co.nz

hmmn....
'accidently' slurped data
then 'accidently' didnt delete the data as they said they would

evil ??
"Google angered officials on both sides of the Atlantic in 2010 when it acknowledged that its mapping cars, which carried cameras to create three-dimensional maps of the world's streets, had also scooped up passwords and other data being transmitted over unsecured wireless networks. Investigators have since revealed the data included private information, including legal, medical and pornographic material. "

cant blame them for keeping the porn though :banana

not so much an accident either
www.theregister.co.uk
"An investigation by the Federal Communications Commission leaves no ambiguity: an engineer discussed the collection of the personal data with a senior manager, and that between May 2007 and May 2010, wireless traffic was captured by Street View cars."

and a cover up
"“For many months, Google deliberately impeded and delayed the bureau’s investigation by failing to respond to requests for material information and to provide certifications and verifications of its responses,” the FCC wrote.
1101 (13337)
1290026 2012-07-30 03:17:00 Wouldn't surprise me if it was a lazy engineer who wanted to analyze the data at a later stage (Or it could have been a thorough engineer trying to do some additional things such as matching IP Ranges on hidden SSID networks etc). Chilling_Silence (9)
1290027 2012-07-30 05:46:00 Evil? Hardware prices!! ChazTheGeek (16619)
1290028 2012-07-30 06:11:00 Evil? Hardware prices!!
And that mobile phones don't ship with two batteries be default. :D
Nick G (16709)
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