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Thread ID: 125830 2012-07-22 02:13:00 Which is more evil ? globe (11482) PC World Chat
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1290009 2012-07-25 01:46:00 True, however it's like saying that you're responsible for walking past somebody in a cafe and overhearing them talking about confidential figures.


Well no, Its nothing like that at all, Its like putting a microphone in a private booth, recording every word and then blaming the people who were recorded for not speaking in code.
Metla (12)
1290010 2012-07-25 01:53:00 I'm going to vote for religion, with the Catholics getting a special nod.

The islamic fundamentalist are a nasty lot too.
Cicero (40)
1290011 2012-07-25 01:59:00 Well no, Its nothing like that at all, Its like putting a microphone in a private booth, recording every word and then blaming the people who were recorded for not speaking in code.

How so? A wifi network isn't a private booth by any stretch of the imagination. Just like sitting in your front lawn isn't completely private from people walking past...
Chilling_Silence (9)
1290012 2012-07-25 02:15:00 How so? A wifi network isn't a private booth by any stretch of the imagination. Just like sitting in your front lawn isn't completely private from people walking past...

because you don't just overhear a data on a wifi network without deliberate intent and equipment.

To get it in line with your front lawn concept you would have to write your data on a sign and erect it on the front lawn, Then somebody could quite rightly say they had no intent and took no actions to access the data.
Metla (12)
1290013 2012-07-25 02:26:00 Not entirely.

They absolutely had *every* intent of writing down that that house was at XYZ and who lives there. The rest was basically just laziness on their behalf, not filtering it *as* they captured it. That said, they kinda had to capture it in order to find out the SSIDs of networks that weren't broadcasting their details, so they're kinda damned if they do, damned if they don't ...
Chilling_Silence (9)
1290014 2012-07-25 02:38:00 Yeah, Thats right up there with downing women for witchcraft, burning heretics, and building an entire system so to supply children to pedophiles.

Of course, we would all go to jail for that as well.

You need one of these 4024 :devil
gary67 (56)
1290015 2012-07-25 23:12:00 How so? A wifi network isn't a private booth by any stretch of the imagination. Just like sitting in your front lawn isn't completely private from people walking past...

eavesdropping ?? Im not sure what the NZ laws are on that.

OK, its more like this
Getting a small telescope, setting in up on top of a van,driving around all the local streets, peering into peoples houses & photographing/videoing what you see .
If anyone thinks its OK to eavesdrop on unsecured wifi, please supply your home address so we can try & hack into your wifi. If we get in its your fault.
In fact, people have been arrested for secretly using someone elses unsecured wifi . Yet Google gets away with this. You cant just accidentally gather data & store from wifi while driving around in a Van.

Why is it illegal to phonetap, yet seemingly OK to to steal(yes steal) private info off unsecured wifi.
Both are easy to do. Both can be protected if you are tech savvy. many are not tech savvy.
1101 (13337)
1290016 2012-07-26 00:52:00 Well technically no because the information over WiFi is being broadcast, that's the key difference.

Yes, you can easily gather the data. I drive along and my Cellphone beeps to alert me there are nearby wifi networks. Now how does it know that? Because the information was being broadcast, both that the networks were secure / open as well as their name.

Calls over a physical copper phone line are *not* broadcast by comparison.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1290017 2012-07-26 00:57:00 Calls over a physical copper phone line are *not* broadcast by comparison.

They are, but with much less power.

The electric current in the phone wiring will cause a small field around the wire you could intercept, if you were close enough.
Agent_24 (57)
1290018 2012-07-26 01:33:00 They are, but with much less power.

The electric current in the phone wiring will cause a small field around the wire you could intercept, if you were close enough.

Fair call, point taken ;)
Chilling_Silence (9)
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