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Thread ID: 25043	2002-09-24 14:39:00	New to backing up and Nero.	Danger (287)	Press F1

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82750	2002-09-24 14:39:00	I have backed up My Documents and Favorites and Address Book, couldn't find Outlook Express where it was sposed to be, not too worried about that tho. What I want to know, as the info on Nero doesnt really help much, is what do I do with my back ups now? After 2 weeks do I put them back in the burner and start Nero Express? Does this automatically change the contents on the discs or do I need to reburn them? I am using cd/rw by the way. I seem to remember reading that I need to format the discs, but I did not see this option anywhere. Only start a multisession or continue multisession. Does the old data get over written, rearranged, or do I need to delete the discs first? I thought they could work like a giant floppy, unfortuanatly havent used them much either, back ups are all new to me. Windows ME.	Danger (287)
82751	2002-09-24 22:25:00	You need "InCd" This is a seperate part of Nero, and if installed, will show in the status bar as a cd with a red arrow pointing down - insert a cdrw and - after a while - this will alter to a green arrow. From this you can format. Open windows explorer/program files/ahead folder/expand and you should find incd. Run the .exe file. If not in there, explore the Nero CD & run it from there. Bye	Peter H (220)
82752	2002-09-25 00:19:00	I am also a bit lost using Nero (other than wizard everything else is gobbledegook!) so I downloaded and printed pdf file from here (ftp://ftp6.nero.com/quickstartmanual/NeroMIX_Quickstart_ENG.ZIP). This is a "Brief Instrcution" booklet (30 pages) which explains things in plain(ish) language. sam m	sam m (517)
82753	2002-09-25 00:53:00	Thanks Peter, I have found In CD. So the discs I have created are useless to me and I need to delete them and format the discs with In CD? Then reburn them. And thanks Sam, its really amazing how much in the dark this program leaves you, my user guides are non existant, the folders there but empty. Not much help for a beginner. I will download the PDF's, and hopefully they will have more info also on the cover designer, as I have had problems getting what I want out of that side of things also.	Danger (287)
82754	2002-09-25 01:11:00	If you X out of the Wizard, you "should" find a bar at the top, that gives you the normal help options. I agree that there is a bit of steep learning curve with Nero - mainly because it has so many options available. What version are you using? 5.5.9.0 also gives the option of Nero Express. Open from Start/programs/ahead folder. Plenty of help files are/should be in this folder allready. Bye	Peter H (220)
82755	2002-09-25 01:25:00	I have version 5.5.9.9, just updated it before using it last week. The user guides folder was empty, I have found the help files from the program work space. I started off with Nero Express but strangely enough found Nero Burning Rom a little easier as it gave me some idea what each option did, and the correct sequence of events. Actually toggling between the two was off help also. I think just a basic how to get started page would be off some help, as I found nothing to indicate anything about IN CD was what I needed to create a backup. Still will strugle for awhile until I have used it a few more times. Thanks for your help.	Danger (287)
82756	2002-09-25 05:19:00	Danger, my backup system isn't perfect but it works for me . First of all I keep all my files, documents, Favorites folder, Outlook Express folders, Address Book, etc that I want to keep in one folder: Documents (it's actually "My Documents" that I renamed) and all my Downloads and MP3 music files in other self-named folders . That way I have only three folders to backup . When I backup I just put a CD-RW disk in the writer's drive and InCD fires up . If the disk is new InCD will offer to format it and since I have no choice I have to say Yes . InCD, by the way, should have installed itself in your Startup folder and automatically run when you put a CD-RW disk in the writer's drive . If it didn't, you can start it up yourself before putting the disk in the drive, which is what I do . Anyway, it takes about twenty minutes for my disks to be formatted and then I can drag Documents over to the CD-RW drive from Windows Explorer and away it goes . If your folder/s take up more space than the disk will hold you will have to do two or more "batches" of backups . For the Downloads and MP3 folders I will temporily back them up to a CD-RW disk until I have enough to fill a CD-R disk and burn them onto that . That's the full-backup routine . For easier identification of disks without having to load them in the CD writer I also create a list of the files they contain and print that out to put in the case with the disk . My Print Directory batch file comes in handy here . :-) For the incremental-backup routine it gets messy and puts me off doing them . I know there must be an easier way but I have to do a search for files changed since the last backup and drag them over to replace/overwrite the old ones . You need to leave a bit of spare space on the disk for incremental backups because the new files nearly always take up more room . I have two sets of CD-RW disks and two sets of CD-R disks, just in case one of them gets corrupt . The CD-RW disks get alternated with each backup . I'm not sure what you mean by "what do I do with my back ups now?" You usually put them away somewhere safe so that if your hard drive crashes and takes your data with it you are able to restore that data to another drive with your backups . If you keep your disks away from the PC and the PC gets stolen or burnt in a fire you also have your backed up files available to restore . The whole process is just so that you don't lose files that you would find very time consuming to recreate or are unable to recreate, eg correspondence from friends and family, personal records, business records, etc etc . The frequency of your backup routine would depend on when you wished to save important files and how often you save new files to your hard drive . Everyone is different in that respect and only you would know what would suit you . Regarding Outlook Express, do a search for * . dbx and back those folders up . If your hard drive crashes and you lose them then all you need to do is copy your backup . dbx folders to replace them . Hopefully this will be of some help but if you've got any more questions or need more info just ask . I'll be doing a FAQ on this topic sometime soon and it will be good to know what people would like to see in it .	Susan B (19)
82757	2002-09-25 07:25:00	Thanks Susan. I originally tried to copy my Address Book and Favorites with My Documents, but the file was to big, so I now have them on a seperate disc to My Documents. Looks like I have to do them again now anyway, or maybe just sit on them and do another in a couple of weeks using the correct methods, ie: In Cd. And I will look for those Outlook dbx files. I have In Cd disabled in my start up list, I remember the little red cd icon sitting in my sys tray, but as I have been putting off all this backing up for about six months I had forgotten about it or what it was for. I will start it up manually when I want to use it. Why do you eventually back up your downloads to a CDR? Why not keep them on CD/RW? It sounds like a good idea to have two alternative back ups, thanks for the idea. I thought I read that nero express automatically updated the files on a burnt disc, perhaps I have this wrong? All I meant by "What do I do with my backups now?" was how do I update those backups on the disc as the files change? Once I have this all sorted, I will be doing the same with the HD. A friend of mine just emailed me yesterday, her Mac had been dealt to by a lightening strike, she is a graphic artist, self employed and working on a two year contract designing childrens books. Her Mac is in the shop, hopefully her HD isn't fried and she can access her work. She didn't say, but it sounded like she had no backups!	Danger (287)
82758	2002-09-25 07:53:00	I always use CD-R's for backups as CD-RW's have a shorter life span, and I have had a few fail. CD_R's are so cheap that it doesn't matter if you use a few. Here is my backing up procedure: 1. I have an image of my WIndows partition that I made straight after I installed it and my imprtant drivers. This is my "clean install" with no robs and no software probs. I have saved this to another partition on the same drive for quick restoration, and onto a set of CD-R's for safety in case the entire drive dies. I also make a disc image of my windows partition every month at the very latest. This is stored on a separate harddrive in the machine. This HD is small, so I archive the previous two months backups on a separate partition of the main drive. This allows me to have my current setup within one month of present backed up onto a spearate physical drive. The only problem with this is in the case of fire. As soon as I can afford it I will get a removable HD for this. Not too much of a prob as I have all of the original CD's for my sotware etc, so nothing I can't retrieve. My music collection is backed up onto a set of 20 odd CD-R's. Every time I have enough new music to make a new CD I back it up. My documents, favourites, settigns and other important data is automated through winRAR. It compresses to a self extracting archive every time I feel the need to backup (usually weekly). The archive is stored on the separate HD with the windows image. As with the windows image, this data is archived for two successive backups onto a separate partition of the main drive. I should probably burn this archive to CD aswell for better protection, but unless I take the CD offsite, there is no protection against fire in any case. Finally, any REALLY important stuff that I am working on (Unfinished work) is also backed up to a web server at uni on a daily basis. My ultimate solution would be a removable HD that I brought in weekly to do my backups, or stored in a fire-proof safe, and with CD archives of my important data stored offsite, but that is out of my reach both financially and in terms of effort. With Nero, I don't stuff about with Nero Express. I put the Blank CD-R in the drive and open Nero. I then create a new multisession disc with the files I want to burn. Next time, I insert the disc and select "continue multisession" I then check the tick boxes to update files whose content hsa changed, and click burn. Update done!! When the CD-R is full (after a few goes as data is not overwritten, just added to with a new table of contents on the CD which makes the PC think that any deleted items are not there even though they actually are) I start a new one. G P	Graham Petrie (449)
82759	2002-09-25 07:54:00	That's no probs, but their are no robs either :) G P	Graham Petrie (449)
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